1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Where to hire Blackhat & VA's equipped with SEO tools?

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by krzysiekz, Aug 17, 2011.

  1. krzysiekz

    krzysiekz Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2010
    Messages:
    953
    Likes Received:
    578
    Yo!

    I don't usually ask these types of questions, but I'm looking at taking on a VA. I have hired a few previously, but never had the best experiences. Either they lie on their resume or in the interview and pretend that they know a lot, but when it comes down to real world practicality - they're not so good.

    I'm not some SEO guru, but I can tell when someone is talking smack and then delivering crappy results or require me to hold their hand the whole way.

    I really want to pick someone up who has a decent understanding of SEO, who has access to various SEO tools, and someone who is reliable.

    I currently can only afford to pay typical SEO wages when outsourcing to the Philippines, etc. So obviously not someone from the USA, AUS, etc.

    There is a guy on here who I have on Skype who runs an outsourcing company in the Philippines, and he has some good people. They have access to SEO tools and the price per week / hour is very attractive, but I have found that their training in the SEO tools is very lacking to the point that they are just an SEO VA who actually can't use the tools, and thus is not as efficient as possible.

    What am I hoping to get out of this post?

    - Someone who might be suitable to PM me stating their interest in working with me

    - Ideas on where to find well educated and SEO-tool equipped VA's.


    I just need SEO done for my local business websites, so the competition is very low - but I do want someone who is going to work when required, not slack off - someone who I can rely on. Should they provide good results and my business takes off, they can expect a healthy increase in their wage (but this is for the longer term.. )

    Cheers!:D
     
  2. krzysiekz

    krzysiekz Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2010
    Messages:
    953
    Likes Received:
    578
    I've had one PM so far (for which I am thankful). Anyone else have any advice, or something to add. I know there are some brilliant minds here, guys!
     
  3. lostgringos

    lostgringos Senior Member

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2008
    Messages:
    837
    Likes Received:
    266
    Occupation:
    Online Reputation Manager
    Location:
    Dumaguete City, Philippines
    There are lots of SEO "Gurus" with all kinds of tools. Problem is most have no idea of how to use these tools effectively or with any kind of ethics. For example, someone sells 1,000,000 links and everyone jumps on it. Problem is those links have been hammered so much they are usually worthless. Many of the links are dead (closed) and many have been spammed to death (too many outbound links). And most of these links show up N/A or are a PR 0 or PR1. Only 3% of the package is any good! Most often people think that massive links are the answer to their ranking well. They are NOT.

    Quality links not only help website rank high they add stability! Problem is very few here on BHW want to spend money on manual link building on authoritative Web 2.0 properties and unique contextual content. They want to rank fast and cheap!

    It's pretty funny really...
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 1
  4. Jake1125

    Jake1125 Newbie

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2011
    Messages:
    3
    Likes Received:
    3
    This forum and others similar have all kinds of offers for SEO services and packages. Hunt around, study who has a good reputation. What you want is out there, but you may not always be happy with what you get..
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 1
  5. britcpa

    britcpa Power Member

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2010
    Messages:
    509
    Likes Received:
    1,384

    good answer about SEO in general. i know its going off topic, but how come youve moved from canada to philippines - is that a lifestyle choice or more to do with work?

    back to the o.p.'s question, from my understanding and limited experience of hiring philippines va's, youre paying top dollar if youre paying over $600 pcm and for that, you should be getting somebody who knows their way around the SEO world.

    will they have the tools you require? probably not, as they wont be able to afford them themselves, so its a chicken and egg situation that requires you finding somebody you feel you can work with and trust, building a relationship with them and then investing in the tools on their behalf.

    maybe the secret is to take a trip over there to meet up with some of the people youre interested in working with and make a decision based on those meetings?

    btw, i know a lot of people talk in terms of spending $75 a week / $300 pcm on a va's salary so when i say you'd be paying a lot of money if offering iro $600pcm, it really is a lot of money and you really ought to be getting a shedload done for that.
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 1
  6. krzysiekz

    krzysiekz Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2010
    Messages:
    953
    Likes Received:
    578
    Hi guys,

    Got another couple PM's, but any advice is still appreciated! :)
     
  7. VA.Golibu

    VA.Golibu BANNED BANNED

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2011
    Messages:
    81
    Likes Received:
    2
    I'm interested in.Plz check your PM.Tks.


     
  8. ┼blackrat┼

    ┼blackrat┼ Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2010
    Messages:
    899
    Likes Received:
    729
    Location:
    Sewer
    I sent you a pm buddy, let´s try to work it out.
     
  9. yosh001

    yosh001 Registered Member

    Joined:
    May 14, 2011
    Messages:
    66
    Likes Received:
    8
    Occupation:
    Search Engine Optimizer, Local Citaion, Senuke X O
    Location:
    Virtual World
    Home Page:
    Hi,

    I am from Philippines but I am not part of any outsourcing company.
    They will just limit my understandings and skills.

    I chose to be independent SEO than to become a member of outsourcing company.
    I am independent for more than 2 years and I am very competent with SEO Tools.
    list of tools I can use.
    SENuke X,
    Magic Submitter,
    SEO Elite
    The Best Spinner
    Scrape Box (Link Checker)
    Article Samurai and
    Market Samurai

    Try me :)

    Please let me know if you still need one.

    Thanks!

    Yosh