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Where do I stand?

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by crashed, Jan 30, 2009.

  1. crashed

    crashed Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Hi Guys,

    The other week I hired someone to design me a new template for my website, they produced an amazing outstanding design. And promised me last Thursday (22nd Jan) that they were going start coding (splicing) it.

    Now im not sure why, I had an email on Monday promising it was in progress, however they've ignored any other emails I've sent them, and the other night they were on msn, but signed off the Minute I said Hi.

    Now i've got no problem paying for the design, and I was willing to pay up to $200 for it, however the other day i emailed just offering to buy the design files from him I as was thinking he may not be able to code (splice) it into the template form and was too scared to admit it. However he's not even replied to that email.

    Now as that design contains our logo, and was graphically created using the ideas I had for it, im having a battle of ethics. We need that design in place soon, however im caught ethically here as that designer put my ideas onto paper, i'd feel guilty not paying for his time spent doing this. However I cannot let my business suffer by not having this template and im tempted to give his JPG design file to someone else to code for me (which will dramatically increase conversions for me).

    What do you guys think I should do?
     
  2. emgxxg

    emgxxg Registered Member

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    frankly, I have been in this situation before, as the coder/designer, and for a series of days had the unfortunate luck of missing the client on MSN etc, but that still does not explain a 4 day delay in emailing.

    Frankly if no payment has been made you are in no way under a binding contract. And ethics here are a bit foggy. But the rule of thumb is that business comes first, so the best thing you can do is let him know that you will wait for a reply for another 12 hours (or whatever your terms may be) or else will hand over the designing work to someone else.

    Cheers!!
     
  3. blackdan

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    what a shitty designer, find someone new.
     
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    Thing is I know this guys put in a good couple of days work on the graphics side, and would love to pay him, however as he's ignoring me completely i cant even get a paypal email.

    Its so annoying.
     
  5. ktop

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    Write to him, and tell him that it's ok if he's not able to splice it.
    You still like his design, and you can negotiate something in terms of payment.

    It sounds like he is scared(like you guessed), but on the other hand he has done part of the job.

    Also, it's refreshing to hear that you want to be fair about this - a lot of webmasters just bad-mouth freelancers.
     
  6. crashed

    crashed Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    I sent him an email with the subject line: I want to pay you

    explained the situation, and that it was ok if he couldn't code it, and that I wanted to pay him for the work he'd done, and also had more smaller graphics jobs for him in the future. Gave him till Monday to get back to me, so far nothing yet.

    I used to be a freelancer so i know what its like.