008Rohit
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$75-100 is definitely a lot of money for 500 words of content. Even the top rated freelance writers on UpWork don't charge more than $25-30/500 words.
where do I get AAA English content?
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$75-100 is definitely a lot of money for 500 words of content. Even the top rated freelance writers on UpWork don't charge more than $25-30/500 words.
Well I'm Elance, and I do. I'm not the only one who charges for expertise either. There are doctors and lawyers there who do the same.
I actually was part of a writer's circle where we had an ex professional wrestler. He hurt his back and couldn't play anymore but wrote sports content mainly wrestling. It's these types of people who will write content that connects with real people in the industry.
Aluminium
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008Rohit
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I forgot putting a 'most' there. Even I used to charge $150-200 for around 700-1000 words inbound marketing posts back in the day. That was more like paid guest posting though, not just selling content, and my expertise was what mattered. I had real world experience in inbound marketing and it counted more than me being a non-native (I don't know why people stress on native writers so much, millions of non-natives around the world are pretty good in English these days as it's not just limited to USA/UK/Canada/Oceania these days).
There are non-natives who write well, but it's more of an exception than a rule. So obviously to just cut out the higher chance of low quality, I always suggest to stick to US/UK/Canada. If 90% of non-natives aren't good writers, then it just makes logical sense to cut them out of the game to save the hassle.
The issue with non-natives is that they don't know the nuances of the language. It's those nuances that connect with readers. They seem to write mostly in cliches and focus on specific words. For instance, I was an editor for a company who wasn't paying their writers enough, so all I could hire were non-natives. I had to tell a guy to quit explaining everything as "ubiquitous." Using it over and over makes for poor reading. I had to tell another to stop explaining everything as "simple." Oh, programming complex algorithms is "simple." That was his adjective for everything. It's redundant but they don't have the vocabulary or understanding of the language to do differently.
Another issue is that they don't understand compelling writing vs writing that just make a sentence wrong. For instance, "Everyone uses Twitter for social signals." Everyone? -- can't write like that. "Most" or "Several" work here, but not "everyone."
It's these problems that lower the quality of your writing. People who are experts in the field pick up on this and move on to another site.
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Preach brotha.. PREACH!
You essentially explained why people prefer to make use of native English writers over anything else.
Content is always going to be king, and every-time somebody says that it won't I get a fuzzy feeling inside. Just give it a few years, algorithms and such are always going to be changing; whereas content will always remain consistent.
Now I've never been paid $800 for 3,000 words of work (although I'd like that, a lot) I still believe I provide a pretty high-quality service. Does the fact that I was born/bred in Canada give me an upper-hand? Of course.
That doesn't mean every single Canadian is an amazing writer though, I dedicated myself to this craft and have done my best to perfect it. There are plenty of "writers" in IM that can't deliver high-quality work, those are usually the ones who end up slaving away for content mills (don't do that, by the way). I feel like content is never really overlooked when it comes to this industry, because having your visitors actually connect with your website/the content included on your website is almost a necessity.
Only those who are oblivious to success would agree that a $3-4/500 word writer is just as useful as somebody like myself.
008Rohit
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You're absolutely right. I initially tried a lot of cheap writers and some of them actually researched the subject, but still most of the sentences were full of grammatical errors, and the ones that weren't didn't make much sense either. I could understand what they were thinking when they were writing those sentences, but were generally very poor in expressing that in words.
I eventually realized it's more of a headache to deal with such writers. I used to end up spending more time editing those articles than doing more important things that couldn't be done by someone else.
BTW, some non-native writers tend to have excellent control over the English language. Especially those who studied English literature at the University level. But that doesn't always have to be the case, I've even seen some great guys, both native and non-native, to be great at writing engaging content without having much formal education. There's a guy in the Content section who claims to be "to cool for school" and is seriously worthy of that claim IMO.
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No, actually she's a qualified expert in her field with a title to her name... She is also published on MANY other popular sites but most of those are niche related. I can tell you it's good stuff. People can get away with selling $1000 articles because the higher the price of something is the more people assume it's the best. I am pretty sure there is actually a $1000 article service here I swear I have seen something like that... You could probably convince J.K. Rowling to write you a short story for not much more than that lol...
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Are you talking about that "sales page service" thingy?
I have no idea who would even THINK about paying ~$800 for like 1,000 words (or whatever it is). I don't care WHO you are, there's no way you're going to make my sales page THAT much more "optimized" for an additional $700 lmao.
The reviews that claim it's a "life-changing service" seem pretty dramatic too.. maybe he uses a golden keyboard?
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I don't mean to criticize but it's ironic and proves a point...
"I had real world experience in inbound marketing and it counted more than me being a non-native (I don't know why people stress on native writers so much, millions of non-natives around the world are pretty good in English these days as it's not just limited to USA/UK/Canada/Oceania these days)."
I know it's a forum but we're discussing writing content. Your sentence is overly long. You also use "These days" twice in it.
Millions of people around the world are proficient in English. Nothing more than that. I can still tell with "Language interference" when the writer is non-native. Especially when they PM on here pretending to be...
Then again, shit loads of Native Speakers can't write their name and address on a postcard.
"I had real world experience in inbound marketing and it counted more than me being a non-native (I don't know why people stress on native writers so much, millions of non-natives around the world are pretty good in English these days as it's not just limited to USA/UK/Canada/Oceania these days)."
I know it's a forum but we're discussing writing content. Your sentence is overly long. You also use "These days" twice in it.
Millions of people around the world are proficient in English. Nothing more than that. I can still tell with "Language interference" when the writer is non-native. Especially when they PM on here pretending to be...
Then again, shit loads of Native Speakers can't write their name and address on a postcard.
So she has a more impressive portfolio on numerous other popular sites but you chose Ehow and Examiner? LOL OK, buddy. I have both of those under my belt too and I don't even mention them in my writing profiles. They are actually a negative aspect of a portfolio. If those outlets are indeed her "pull," then she just writes web spam.
008Rohit
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I don't mean to criticize but it's ironic and proves a point...
"I had real world experience in inbound marketing and it counted more than me being a non-native (I don't know why people stress on native writers so much, millions of non-natives around the world are pretty good in English these days as it's not just limited to USA/UK/Canada/Oceania these days)."
I know it's a forum but we're discussing writing content. Your sentence is overly long. You also use "These days" twice in it.
Millions of people around the world are proficient in English. Nothing more than that. I can still tell with "Language interference" when the writer is non-native. Especially when they PM on here pretending to be...
Then again, shit loads of Native Speakers can't write their name and address on a postcard.
Ahh, that's just an error as a result of typing too casually. Sure as hell I don't proofread my BHW posts, lol.
Aluminium
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We've all been there haha.
008Rohit
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Beware, man! Someone might pop in and say, there should've been a comma between 'there' and 'haha'. And then argue that you, being a professional writer, should know about punctuation better.
Jack Torrance
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She has been published on USA Today. She is a qualified professional in the field I am in with a title to her name and thousands of followers. Most of the other sites she's published on are niche related, I won't even mention the vague area of my niche in case people get ideas and stick related keywords into Long Tail Pro.
I also connected with somebody else in this field and they are a published non-fiction author, they do not charge that amount for 500 words. They are also a qualified professional but on a slightly different side to what my site is about...
008Rohit
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Man, there are people like Alex Becker in every field who sell their products (content in this case) for absurd prices. Just because it's priced very high doesn't mean it's that much better than reasonably priced alternatives.
Aluminium
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Beware, man! Someone might pop in and say, there should've been a comma between 'there' and 'haha'. And then argue that you, being a professional writer, should know about punctuation better.
If they aren't a client... they can kiss my grits!
008Rohit
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If they aren't a client... they can kiss my grits!
#DatAttitude is exactly what's needed.
