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When will I start seeing my backlink?

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by still_crystal, Mar 22, 2010.

  1. still_crystal

    still_crystal Junior Member

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    Been building backlinks for few days now and haven't seen any yet. When do they usually show up after building? Thanks. Plus what is the good tool for "backlink watch" alternative?
     
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    cyber702 Newbie

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    Typically Google wont recognize them for 30 days.
     
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    ipopbb Power Member

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    If its a brand new website it could go as long as 10 months if you're not careful.
     
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    still_crystal Junior Member

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    Oh O!! Is there any tips and tricks? :confused:
     
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    Slow down. Pick the best 2 phrases that will most directly target shoppers for whatever you're selling. Find out what concerns those shoppers have from reviews and comments on other sites. Craft your content to use those 1 or 2 phrases a great deal in ways that wont piss off Google. Example: (Not my site) google search for Pink Ribbon and look at pinkribbonshop.com in the SERPs then look at the page and count the number of different ways the keywords were used in the landing page. Look up some of the kinds of websites they have backlinks from and what text was used to link to their website.

    In White Hat, slow & steady & long lasting wins the race. If you have a real website that is selling goods or services then focus on those core 1-2 keyword phrases to an extreme. They should be used systematically everywhere you mention your URL.

    Here are a couple tricks: (I charge six figures for my SEO services so this is a BIG gift)

    * If it looks spammy you will lose the sale. Stuff keywords elegantly because you still need to land the sale and looking sketchy spoils that. Stuffing keywords helps your content score tremendously in SERPs. Don't go over 7-10% keyword density on your terms unless multiple competitors who out rank you already do.

    * Make sure you have the extra fixins... favicon, apple_touch_icon, robots.txt, meta tags, alt text, page titles, wordy paragraphs, CSS and HTML that validates, proper doctype tag, a healthy blend of pictures, graphics, and text

    * Sweet Spot Sizes... google likes meaty page 35KB-140KB... make sure a lot of it is visible text.

    * Don't ever trust White Hat "advice"... scientifically measure tatics of successful sites that last. I know for a fact from actual experimentation that H1-3 tags are not optimal. That is in stark contrast to just about every SEO expert out there... but time after time my lowly H5 tags out rank them. My blockquote tags out rank the h5 tags. My U tags out ranks the blockquotes! White Hat advice is the same regurgitated advice that has been circulating since the early days. In fact, if you follow the regurgitated advice that appears everywhere you will fit a statistical profile of sites that try to artificially influence Google for specific keywords. That's practically asking google to not rank you for those words.

    * Don't gamble with your money making website. Keep your domains and IP addresses, email accounts, and your identity squeaky clean. Get a pet website on a different host us anonymous registration and experiment there with changes before using on your actual site. Don't let other people into or act on behalf of your web identity. If one person fu#$s up and google bans you from adsense, you will never get back in. The accounts you associate yourself with effect you. Stay clean and very isolated. Google remembers and associates IPs, emails, domain info, etc, and makes permanent mappings.

    A friend of one guy I do business for clicked his own ads from home. Google new. The guy I do business with got rejected from AdSense for being associated with the click fraud via whois contact info linking the two together.

    $0.12 worth of clicks ended a half million dollar per year revenue stream that was totally white hat and legit. The site makes money in other ways now, but google wont reconsider its verdict.

    * Don't quit. Google expects you'll give up in less than ten months. Build your SEO and generate traffic in other ways. It will come when comes. You don't control that. You can however do social marketing and blogging and article writing in the mean time to build real traffic. You can research the successful players and figure out opportunities they missed. And you can listen to your potential customers and understand their needs and wants. If your business is legitimate then it doesn't matter if it takes 3 months or 10 months. It only matters that it brings you success, happiness, and stability that is worth the effort. Most real businesses don't make much profit their first 2 years. Some are faster and some are slower, but if you don't last 10 months then you wont last 2 years...

    * Here is a last tidbit... take it or leave it: If your sole intention is to make money then you probably wont. To close a sale you have to predict and meet the customer's needs and wants. Zappos went from 0 to crazy big because of customer service assurances. They account for the cost of shipping and returns in their pricing. People don't mind paying a little more for hassle free experiences. They are the same shoes you can get elsewhere and for less, but why would you when you feel safe and well taken care of at Zappos? Starbucks sells a $5 cup of coffee, many people think it isn't all that great, but still there are lines out the door. You could be a vegetarian and hate franchises like McDonalds, but one thing you could never say is that McDonalds doesn't deliver on its promise.

    There are trick in black hat side for 24hour indexing. Those tactics are for short lived bursts of traffic. I prefer page one of google myself. In fact I strive for 5-8 on page 1 for sets of 40,000 keywords, but I have teams of people. You should find a couple good ones that will target customers and focus until you find success, then lather rinse and repeat. Success first... then repeat. Too much link building and no traffic...thats repeating before success. Just strive to get 1 sale. Then strive to get 10 more. By the time you do that you will know what works and what you need to do.
     
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    spillsplash Junior Member

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    keep a txt file that contains links to the pages with your link and ping them.
     
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    Here are a few lessor known FACTS:

    * Keywords in HTML comments help a little... not as much as visible text, but a page with commented keywords will always out rank a page without the keywords.

    * Don't repeat a keyword in a title more than 4 times... google 'games' and count how many use it 5 or more times in the top 100... answer: 0

    * There is no statistical value from repeating keywords more than once in the page title.

    * Do repeat keywords a lot in different phrases in meta description and in page content

    * Link to page that use your keywords. As a test I made a page that linked to pages using a keyword I wanted. I never used the keyword on the page. That test out ranked 13 other tests where the keyword was used in specific tags.

    * Your web page content should change every 2 to 3 days. Add something new or take something out, but a living website makes you recent and recent websites get bonuses.
    I always liked the "Editor's Choice" product reviews... I could write them up for the whole year and forget about it know that every third day google would come back and find that about 10% of the page had changed... not enough to cause confusion... just some freshness.
     
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    still_crystal Junior Member

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    Thank you for time writing this report. much appreciated. I will follow your suggestion and you actuallly helped me keep my head high up
     
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    SEO Spyglass.

    The paid version is amazing but even the free version is great.