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When building private network - focus more on DA/PA or PR?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by krzysiekz, Apr 10, 2013.

  1. krzysiekz

    krzysiekz Senior Member

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    Hi everyone, here with a quick question about what some of you are doing when adding sites or domains into your network.

    I can find plenty of nice expired domains with some good DA and PA. If I really try and drill it down and be very specific, I could probably build a network of sites with DA/PA of 40+.

    However, since they're expired etc they may have lost their PR. The PR might come back, or it might not. Making my choice based on current PR seems a little tedious and unreliable. Where basing it on DA/PA is a lot easier to control.

    Has anyone here built networks focusing mainly on the domain authority and page authority, rather than PR? And if so, how do the results look?

    Thank you! +rep given for anyone who is able to get this discussion going!
     
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    BottingWorks Regular Member

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    I wouldn't count on any PR that page ever had being reinstated, unless of course you built it.
     
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    ritesh Senior Member

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    Well if you do a scrapebox blast or few 1000 edu blog comments even than you get PA/DA 30-40Do check the link profile and if it contains comments links don't buy them.
    I would say go for PA/DA rather than PR. Its my personal opinion though.I use the same strategy works fine for me.
     
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    Smeems Regular Member

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    PA/DA definitely. There's a reason why BigBuddy promotes those metrics and not PR in his blog networks.

    Better yet, throw in Citation and Trust Score from Majestic as well.
     
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  5. Shilas

    Shilas Registered Member

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    I think DA/PA is a joke. (So is their MozRank)

    I always go for 2 things (Majestic SEO):

    1. Amount of referring domains to be 40-50+.

    This is because of the effectiveness of this, and also to avoid putting all eggs in one basket, if the external links just start vanishing.

    2. Trustflow to be 10-15+

    I find this the most reliable metric to understand a domains effectiveness.

    3. Go and check the back links manually.

    It's so easy to see if all of it comes from bad/spammy links. If that's the case, then
    i drop it.
     
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    danailo Senior Member

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    Focus on link profile as well. I use majesticseo for that. PR is just a factor that shows me if one domain is 100% in the index.
     
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    DA / PA can be gamed easily..
    check the backlink profile and if its clean.. go for it.
    Personally I prefer clean domains with DA 20+ rather than spammed domains with 40+ DA

    PR plays imp role as well but I've seen that good quality domains with decent DA are almost the same.
     
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    You cant completely rely on PA/DA. though its always a plus point to have 40+ PA/DA (Who would not want it ? ) ..but if you are making a blog network..you should considering other important factors along with PA/DA.. i would suggest you to check these:

    1. Check the back links ..the number of back links and the PR of those back links.
    2. Check the domain age..
    3. Check how many times the domain had dropped

    Once you check them and you find the in alignment with PA/DA ..you are good to go ahead.
     
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    Flodner Regular Member

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    Like it was mentioned - add also Majestic criteria into your analysis metrics
     
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    seogdw Newbie

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    I build my network using da of at least 25, then I investigate it more using majestic. However I have picked up the odd low da site when I recognise the name ad some council or government run organisation. Picked one up recently that was da 19 with backlinks from local council sites.

    Results are good but I only have good quality content on there and not too many out bound links. Also I don't let anyone else use the network.
     
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    High PA/DA=High PR. It's natural. So give importance to PA/DA.
     
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    Not true, some of my web 2.0 blogs got 50+ PA as i have blasted them multiple times with Scrapebox +GSA, however most of them are PR1-2 only.
     
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  13. krzysiekz

    krzysiekz Senior Member

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    Thanks for everyone who has chimed in. This certainly brought in a fair amount of discussion.

    From what I can summarise, DA/PA can be easily gamed and so the backlinks should be manually checked to make sure they're not from spammy sources. If the backlinks are good quality, we can postulate that the DA/PA are a good indicator of a potentially quality domain.

    Other important factors include how many times a domain has been dropped, domain age and amount of referring domains. Adding in citation and trustflow sources seems to be another indicator.

    So, by using all of these, it seems I'll be able to get some quality domains. Thanks for the info., still open for more replies but I think I have a good foundation.

    +rep coming your way, for all who contributed an excellent post.