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What is your opinion on this PBN approach? Need feedback

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Timmyt, Feb 6, 2016.

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  1. Timmyt

    Timmyt Newbie

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    Hello,

    What are your opinion on this approach to building a PBN.

    Let's say that you have Senuke/Ultimate Demon or any kind of software that let you build links in a structured way.

    Then you build up a network of blogs like any other PBN, but you don't buy expired domains or domains at all for that matter. You only use free sites like wordpress.com, tumblr and similar free services.

    You fill them with good enough content and you build your 1,2,3 tire links like you would do in any PBN.

    When the sites are strong enough (DA) you start linking to your money sites.

    Will that work? What are your opinion on this take? Why I'm asking is because I'm looking for a more "budget" friendly way to build a PBN.

    What I have thought about already that would be negative compared to a normal PBN is this:

    You will start off with low authority blogs/sites
    You can in theory lose any of the blogs with no warning since you are not the legal owner of the domain.

    Are there more things that I should take into consideration?
     
  2. tb303

    tb303 Senior Member

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    Yes you can build a web 2.0 network from scratch and it takes time.
    Personally though i'd rather use that content on an expired domain or web 2.0 to get a jump start.
    In my experience the cost of the domain is not the problem its the content that adds up.
     
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    Its a good option, but you always risk losing these properties as you rely upon third parties.
     
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    It isn't truly a PBN, as you don't have complete control over the blog, because like youentiomed it can be deleted at anytime, for whatever reason, but at the same time, go for it, a Web 2.0 network can be powerful.

    Don't be scared to build some social profiles and social signals for the web 2.0s, gives them a more realistic look, if you ever get the dreaded manual review.
    Don't be afraid to put a couple links up from your web 2.0, especially if you link out to other authority blogs a couple times(never followed the one and done principle, because it is just another pattern).
     
  5. Timmyt

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    As in creating/buying content?
     
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    You could buy some expired tumblrs etc that already some links and PA or learn how to find them to speed up the process.

    In theory it would probably work but you're essentially relying on spam to juice up your network. You're probably sitting on a ticking time bomb for when those properties become toxic and this could happen before you even drop a link. A proper pbn is well worth the effort and cost in my opinion. Maybe just learn how to reduce your costs on pbn building instead?
     
  7. Timmyt

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    You do have some god points. The price of buying not to strong domains aren't to high and you remove basicly the biggest risk. I do agree.
     
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    accelerator_dd Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    The whole point of buying PBN domains is to take advantage of the links they have. If you take that part away, it's just regular web2.0s link building.
     
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    Build pbn's is not easy. It's costly if you have funds than only jump in this market.
     
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    It's always better to buy dropped domains. Your own site is always your asset. Web2.0 is someone else's asset, you only earn money for them.
     
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    Timmy, based on what you've described. It seems that you're trying to essentially come up with a link juice farm using a three-tier system.

    I'm sorry to be the one to break this to you, but after last year's series of Google updates, this may no longer work out.

    Sure, a lot of people are talking a big game regarding how much traffic they get using a multi-tier system, but the problem here is that Google is quickly moving away from rewarding self-generated or recent link networks.

    Instead, it's paying more attention to niche specificity and proximity to valuable websites.

    I wish there was another verdict, but just from what you're saying, using blogger and Wordpress.com, this may not be a winning strategy for much longer.

    Sure, a lot of people are talking about how much money they're making, but if I were them, I'd start looking into building a backup and, no, I'm not talking about using dropped domains for PBNs.

    That's a losing game.

    I strongly suspect that Google somehow, someway, will come up with a dropped domain penalty and you can see those PBN networks get nuked.

    I know these statements not going to make me popular, but I'd rather focus on what's up ahead rather than feed everybody else's delusion.