what if all countries stop making weapons
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You’re either painfully unaware of real world circumstances or you just choose to live in denial.
Either way, the country that convinces other countries to get rid of their weapons will be the one secretly stacking ARs under grandma’s couch.
But Deep inside we all does not want to hurt others ,a mom in usa will be waiting home same as a mom in Russia or Korea but why fueled by nationalism we kill other country people,sure some mom must be waiting for him back at home
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I can define this with one word - Utopia.
You are Muslim, Christian, Jew or whatever? Your skin is white, black, yellow or whatever? We all have red blood! Much worse is that we have so many weapons in the world that we can't kill ourselves just once. No we can kill ourselves 2 or 3 times. I thought in real life we only have one life. Or are we in a game that feels real?
Peace, love and harmony for you!
Peace, love and harmony for you!
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That's how it all started.
Then one group of monkeys made weapons and forced another group of monkeys to arm themselves too.
That's how we got here. We're just nuclear armed monkeys
Then one group of monkeys made weapons and forced another group of monkeys to arm themselves too.
That's how we got here. We're just nuclear armed monkeys
ATuringtest
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So what your saying is, that if you only want nice people in the world, you have to kill the bad people first?
but what if we all come to an agreement to disarm and work on the eradicate poverty and help people
even if we have million weapons how many people we can kill ? or whats the point of keeping a million sq km of un used land meanwhile in the same country people dont have a place to sleep
I dont want to kill anyone ,Lets disarm all big weapons like nuclear weapons it will reduce the deaths.
ATuringtest
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Did you know that the first Matrix was designed to be a perfect human world, where none suffered, where everyone would be happy? It was a disaster. No one would accept the program, entire crops were lost.
The Matrix (film) - Wikiquote
The Matrix (film) - Wikiquote
ATuringtest
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Nukes is the reason why there is no wholesale genocide of entire religions and races.
And if a country like israel says "fuck off your not having our nukes, its the only thing stopping everyone slaughtering us", how do you deal with them ?
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Wars make business. So this will never happen if money is involved .
HustleTong
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Nothing beats the pleasure of killing each other. Ugh.
t2van
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But no one has launched a nuclear weapon in recent years to kill... so disarming them to reduce deaths is almost a non starting argument it's a deterrent ever since the first one was dropped. No one wants to push that button. YET the worst things are that other weapons have been developed off the back of that which will cause as much if not more destruction without the fall out but no one goes talking about them...
It's all about "banning nukes"
Banning weapons would not help as people would still find a way to kill each other if I really wanted to kill you I have two hands or I can pick up a spoon.. it's not about disarmament it's about the mindset BUT that will never change.
For a "utopia" to work we would all need to be governed by one single country or government which would mean the world coming together and uniting again won't work any time soon.
Hopefully something good happens soon
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War and violence are not just human nature, they're the nature of all living things on earth (and probably in the universe), and they are common sense. Organisms complete instinctive with their own species and with other species for important reasons like controlling resources down to almost pointless reasons like fighting over a mate with another male.
With regards to humans, it defies reason and logic to expect that you can have these two things occurring together:
1. No violence, hostility or killing, but only peace and cooperation.
2. Human beings being allowed to exercise free will.
You can have total peace as long as you have total control over all people and can force them not to have conflict with each other.
You can have humans allowed to live naturally, making decisions based upon our right to free will.
But you can't have both.
A lot of people don't want peace, they want power, or simply they want to hurt people or to kill people. They enjoy it, for some people it's all they know, and for many people gaining and holding power is literally all they care about and they would start 100 wars to make sure they keep power.
If you disarm people of all weapons, the most physically powerful people or the people that form groups the best will control the others with hand-to-hand combat alone. Sometimes there are really good reasons to have physical conflicts with people and the ability to access weapons is important, like if you find a pedophile molesting your child or if someone is trying to home invade your house.
In these situations sitting down and having a chat about the problem is not a realistic solution.
You're not the first person to think it would be nice to have universal peace, but it's not going to happen without removing free will completely, which is infinitely worse.
With regards to humans, it defies reason and logic to expect that you can have these two things occurring together:
1. No violence, hostility or killing, but only peace and cooperation.
2. Human beings being allowed to exercise free will.
You can have total peace as long as you have total control over all people and can force them not to have conflict with each other.
You can have humans allowed to live naturally, making decisions based upon our right to free will.
But you can't have both.
A lot of people don't want peace, they want power, or simply they want to hurt people or to kill people. They enjoy it, for some people it's all they know, and for many people gaining and holding power is literally all they care about and they would start 100 wars to make sure they keep power.
If you disarm people of all weapons, the most physically powerful people or the people that form groups the best will control the others with hand-to-hand combat alone. Sometimes there are really good reasons to have physical conflicts with people and the ability to access weapons is important, like if you find a pedophile molesting your child or if someone is trying to home invade your house.
In these situations sitting down and having a chat about the problem is not a realistic solution.
You're not the first person to think it would be nice to have universal peace, but it's not going to happen without removing free will completely, which is infinitely worse.
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