What I thought about the vote update

I’m still following it, and I found that most panel resellers are still doing nothing. Some are staying silent, and some are saying it’s because of the war or other excuses, lol.

I tested most of the cheapest panels on the market, and they all failed. Then I did one final test using my own account pool. The cost is about 15 times higher than what those panel sellers claim, but the thing is - it actually worked.

So this basically means most cheap resellers are lying. The key factor is real accounts vs. bot accounts. With the new updates, bot accounts are getting killed. But if you use real accounts, it still works.

You hit the nail on the head. Reddit has aggressively tightened its anti manipulation filters recently to completely wipe out data center IPs and cheap bot farms. The only way to get votes to actually stick now is by using aged accounts with real activity history on clean residential proxies. It definitely costs a lot more to maintain a high-quality account pool, but adapting to this quality-over-quantity approach is the only survival strategy right now.

The problem that customers want cheap and quality upvotes but it's not possible anymore. So you actually discovered that good panels can't be cheap.

I tested real accounts and some of them stop being able to vote after some random period of time. So the problem is deeper than we think. I posted in another thread that regular Reddit users also facing the issue that their upvotes don't stick anymore.

Best thing is to purchase manual upvotes from micro workers. Upvotes won't be instant but they'll stick.

NirvanaWolf said:

Best thing is to purchase manual upvotes from micro workers. Upvotes won't be instant but they'll stick.

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It's not the best way because many of those users may be using already shadowbanned accounts and they use accounts aggressively for upvotes.

Pavilion said:

It's not the best way because many of those users may be using already shadowbanned accounts and they use accounts aggressively for upvotes.

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I recycle through users. Invite people to a telegram group, they have to upvote and share a screenshot. When I feel most of their upvotes are not counting, I move on and invite others. You can find these people on side hustle and beer money subs. Has worked for me so far. I should've specified in my earlier comment, I don't hire through mainstream microworkers portals.

I personally see all the panels are still working pretty fine, not sure which panel it is failing right now

Bot farms got wiped. Real accounts still work but you're paying 10-15x more now.
Quality over quantity is the only play.

contra_murky_orangery said:

I’m still following it, and I found that most panel resellers are still doing nothing. Some are staying silent, and some are saying it’s because of the war or other excuses, lol.

I tested most of the cheapest panels on the market, and they all failed. Then I did one final test using my own account pool. The cost is about 15 times higher than what those panel sellers claim, but the thing is - it actually worked.

So this basically means most cheap resellers are lying. The key factor is real accounts vs. bot accounts. With the new updates, bot accounts are getting killed. But if you use real accounts, it still works.

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Very cheap services often come with very low quality. Everyone values their time and effort, so extremely low prices usually mean the service won’t deliver much real value.

I’ve noticed that it's not just about the votes anymore; it's about the engagement surrounding them. I recently had an account flagged just because my activity didn't match their 'human' pattern, even with decent karma. They are definitely tightening the screws

contra_murky_orangery said:

I’m still following it, and I found that most panel resellers are still doing nothing. Some are staying silent, and some are saying it’s because of the war or other excuses, lol.

I tested most of the cheapest panels on the market, and they all failed. Then I did one final test using my own account pool. The cost is about 15 times higher than what those panel sellers claim, but the thing is - it actually worked.

So this basically means most cheap resellers are lying. The key factor is real accounts vs. bot accounts. With the new updates, bot accounts are getting killed. But if you use real accounts, it still works.

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While you're correct that bot accounts are getting hit a lot harder, what is the definition of a "real account", according to Reddit? What makes an account "real" according to Reddit's detection algorithm? I guess would be someone using a residential IP + manually hitting upvote? Or if someone wrote a bot script on aged clean IP accounts + anti-detect browser, would that be considered a 'bot' in Reddit's eyes? I think panels need to figure out the minimum requirements for what is considered a human vote.

OptiMaster said:

You hit the nail on the head. Reddit has aggressively tightened its anti manipulation filters recently to completely wipe out data center IPs and cheap bot farms. The only way to get votes to actually stick now is by using aged accounts with real activity history on clean residential proxies. It definitely costs a lot more to maintain a high-quality account pool, but adapting to this quality-over-quantity approach is the only survival strategy right now.

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Yeah I'm manually upvoting using my own homegrown accounts. Those upvotes seem to stick very well but I only have room for like 15 profiles.

Pavilion said:

The problem that customers want cheap and quality upvotes but it's not possible anymore. So you actually discovered that good panels can't be cheap.

I tested real accounts and some of them stop being able to vote after some random period of time. So the problem is deeper than we think. I posted in another thread that regular Reddit users also facing the issue that their upvotes don't stick anymore.

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That's because Reddit thinks your account isn't a "real" account. It's happened to a lot of legitimate users. I made a thread earlier this year addressing this problem, regarding Vote Suppression. Luckily, this can be fixed if you start manually commenting for about a month, using a clean residential IP. A few of my old accounts were 'bricked' from upvoting but that got fixed after about 3-4 weeks of engagement.

contra_murky_orangery said:

I’m still following it, and I found that most panel resellers are still doing nothing. Some are staying silent, and some are saying it’s because of the war or other excuses, lol.

I tested most of the cheapest panels on the market, and they all failed. Then I did one final test using my own account pool. The cost is about 15 times higher than what those panel sellers claim, but the thing is - it actually worked.

So this basically means most cheap resellers are lying. The key factor is real accounts vs. bot accounts. With the new updates, bot accounts are getting killed. But if you use real accounts, it still works.

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Yeah that makes sense, most cheap panels cut corners with bots so they stop working after updates. Real accounts cost more but they seem to be the only thing giving stable results now.

Bot accounts on reddit dont exist, they are instant banned, if you find these accounts let me know

most cheap panels rely on low quality or bot accounts so once platforms update detection everything stops working

jasondenzer said:

While you're correct that bot accounts are getting hit a lot harder, what is the definition of a "real account", according to Reddit? What makes an account "real" according to Reddit's detection algorithm? I guess would be someone using a residential IP + manually hitting upvote? Or if someone wrote a bot script on aged clean IP accounts + anti-detect browser, would that be considered a 'bot' in Reddit's eyes? I think panels need to figure out the minimum requirements for what is considered a human vote.



Yeah I'm manually upvoting using my own homegrown accounts. Those upvotes seem to stick very well but I only have room for like 15 profiles.



That's because Reddit thinks your account isn't a "real" account. It's happened to a lot of legitimate users. I made a thread earlier this year addressing this problem, regarding Vote Suppression. Luckily, this can be fixed if you start manually commenting for about a month, using a clean residential IP. A few of my old accounts were 'bricked' from upvoting but that got fixed after about 3-4 weeks of engagement.

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Yes, someone should make a real case study on that!

I’d also consider the possibility of using cracked accounts to upvote posts if the anti-detect browser method is detected. That would make panels cheaper and working again.