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what happens if... (article spinning and indexing)

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Rushdie, Mar 26, 2010.

  1. Rushdie

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    Let's say I take 1 hundred 400-500 words perfect articles. Spin each of them 100 times (human readable, perfect spin with TBS) and spread them on 1 hundred domains.

    10k subpages is something you can make money from with some promotion. Later you can think about 100k.

    Will google somehow know they are spins? I'm aiming to do advanced nested spins and very good english language.

    Will stuff like this ever be deindexed?

    I want your opinion, cause maybe someone has experience with this stuff and I don't want to waste my time and money :)

    cheers, reps will be given :)
     
  2. dirtbag

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    My recommendation is this. Don't just straight up spin the article out. SPin out entire paragraphs and such too. Rewrite the entire article by hand first in a similar structure. Then spin out entire paragraphs from each article into the next. The more rewrites you do prior, the more unique your end articles will be. I've done some articles where I start with as many as 4 or 5 initial rewrites.

    I'm pretty paranoid about spinning content myself. So I like to spin in and spin out on numerous levels. Sometimes I set it up so the spin will include or exclude entire sentences and paragraphs, etc etc. ex. {you sentence|your sentences 2|} So 33% of the time that sentence doesn't even show.

    My suggestion, don't JUST use TBS's auto-spinning feature. It is good, but take some time to build upon what the auto-spinner gives you. The more time spent, the more unique your end product will be.
     
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  3. Rushdie

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    yes, I was thinking about rewritting every sentence and also not using any automated mode.

    What do you think is the best way to monetize? Make 1 big article site? Make hundreds of sites? ARticle directories+CPA? Sell batch articles?

    thanks :)


    edit: also how much time does it take you to finish 1 perfect article spin-ready ?
     
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  4. Rushdie

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    just gently bumping :)
     
  5. Talsin

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    Personally (and I am quite new to all of this myself) I have been spinning my articles to a point that most people may consider insane. A recent example would be that I produced a piece of spyntax for SEnuke which generates an article of between 550 and 1400 words with variant pictures, layouts and formats possible. Properly readable to humans. In size twelve font it took up 53 pages of A4 and SEnuke only just about managed to run it. That said all but 2 of the articles I put up last week from that piece(each with 2 backlinks to appropriate sites in the link structure im using) stuck and are now indexed. I intend to use that piece of spyntax ever week for the next year or so and get away with it. Now it did take a very long time to "code" that article but in the long run surely its worth it, once I have a couple of dozen of those I wont need anymore for a looooong time and it will let me focus on other things. The site in question now ranks in its mid teens for a VERY competitive keyword phrase after a months worth of work. I would rather spin high stuff that will stick and takes a long time to produce, then crap auto spin that will get taken down if a mod see it. I know some people will laugh at that but isnt quality content the mantra of the search engines ?
     
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    c0ntenth|ef Power Member

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    the possibilities you can do with them is many if you really spin the content so well if you spin the content so well enough and make them all pass copyscape and you should be okay sell them or make blogs with them or submit them to AC
     
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  7. Kid Shaleen

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    As far as I can tell from a quick view of some google patents, they use hashes of articles which in turn uses things like words per article, words per sentence, sentences per paragraph, and paragraphs per article.

    In other words, the old spinning technique of replacing words or an almost one for one basis doesn't work like it used to.

    So if you're going to spin articles well I think it best to alter the various components of the hash. My thoughts then run to something like using 50 paragraphs of various length, and then spinning them into a variety of 20 paragraph articles, then spinning the words in the new articles.

    BTW, if you're going for 10K sites and have the ability and tenacity to do so, why only go with 100 articles that you need spin 100 times each? Why not shoot for somethinglike 1000 articles that each get spun 10 times?

    [small sarcasm filer ON] Isn't the web big enough to steal-n-scrape 1000 articles instead of a mere 100? [small sarcasm filter OFF]
     
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  8. Rushdie

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    Thanks for all response. really helps.

    Kid_Shaleen> I wasn't talking about going 10k sites, but 10k indexed pages. Like 100 sites*100 pages.

    I'm still wondering if it's better to create a swarm of small sites or few big.

    cheers mates