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Weird SEO Problem with my Money Site - Advice Sought

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by TrailBlazer, Jun 10, 2013.

  1. TrailBlazer

    TrailBlazer Junior Member

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    This problem has had me stumped for quite a while now, I?ll greatly appreciate anyone who can provide any type of insight into this. Thanks in advance!

    OK this is my current dilemma. I registered a domain that had my main keyword reversed. So let?s say my main keyword was ?Dog Training?, the actual domain I registered and own is Trainingdog.com

    The domain is 7 months old now. I have a wordpress site installed on it with 4 unique self-written articles of 500+ words as posts.

    One of the posts I made I optimized for my main keyword; continuing with my example, we?ll say that keyword is ?dog training?. So the URL to the post that?s optimized for my main keyword is trainingdog.com/dog-training

    That page has perfect onsite SEO.

    Now the problem is my site, the root domain, ranks 1st for my secondary keyword, ?training dog? (my secondary keyword being an EMD of my domain).

    However, for my main keyword, ?Dog Training?, my site has been doing the google dance for over a month now. Alternating from about the 14th result all the way down to 30th+ result sometimes, but typically it stays around the 14th to 22nd result.

    Now this is the part that I don?t understand and want to change. For my main keyword, the one doing the google dance, (dog training) it is not the page trainingdog.com/dog-training that is ranked, it is actually just the root domain trainingdog.com

    So if I type in my main keyword in google, go to the 2nd page where it?s ranked, the result found there is for my main domain ?trainingdog.com? instead of my optimized page of trainingdog.com/dog-training

    6 Months ago when I first started building a few backlinks, about 20 of them, I had the backlinks pointing to my root domain trainingdog.com. I used my main keywords, and secondary keywords, as well as a few variations of those keywords as anchor text. Those few backlinks were enough to get my root domain ranked for my secondary and primary keywords like I just described.

    Now for the last 60 days or so I?ve been building Tier1, 2s, and 3s, to my trainingdog.com/dog-training page, the page that?s optimized for my main keyword. I am using correct anchor text variations and %s while doing this, as well as Unique, highly sentence spun articles that contain images and videos for my Tier 1s. And GSA for my Tier 2s and 3s

    But trainingdog.com/dog-training still does not make an appearance in the SERPS. trainingdog.com continues to show up for, and google dance, for my main keyword on page 2. And trainingdog.com also continues to show up as result 1 for my secondary keyword.

    Any idea why this is happening? Should I stop making backlinks to trainingdog.com/dog-training for my main keyword, and instead make backlinks of my main keyword to my root domain, hoping that it will climb out of page 2 to page 1?


    Thanks.
     
  2. lancis

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    Previously "dog training" and "training dog" made no difference to Google algorithms. Now there is apparently a difference when keyword reversal is involved. At least, this is what I see with one of my domains - it suddenly dropped from 1st position about a month ago and hasn't returned since then.

    You can check that easily by the way, as the above is only a guess. I havent actually investigated the issue too much. Type "dog training" and see if your "trainingdog.com" is highlighted. If not - I'm correct, and it means only one thing - you need more backlinks to the page than before.
     
  3. -Jericho-

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    It looks like Google is considering your root as the authority for the keyword. If you're showing those keywords on the homepage you're likely just going to have to keep building backlinks to the internal page or just give up and juice up the homepage for that keyword.

    Sometimes it just takes a while. I've had the reverse happen quite a few times where an internal page ranks for my homepage keywords.
     
  4. masterjani

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    Just Diverse the keyword variation of your main domain url. And target the inner page with more and more long tail keywords first. There is a better chance for you, if it starts ranking for more long tail keywords first. Also, increase more and more social signals to the inner page and see the difference too.

    IT does takes time though. Because it is BIG-G
     
  5. TrailBlazer

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    When I type my main keyword (dog training) in quotes, it is highlighted in the SERP, but as usual, it shows up for and is highlighted on my root domain, trainingdog.com instead of the page I optimized for that word, trainingdog.com/dog-training
     
  6. TrailBlazer

    TrailBlazer Junior Member

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    That is what I am thinking too, but what is weird is that I have way more and stronger backlinks pointing to my primary keyword optimized internal page, than I do pointing to my root domain.

    Do you know of anyway I can determine if my internal page trainingdog.com/dog-training is ranked anywhere on google for my keyword "dog training"?

    Thanks.
     
  7. TrailBlazer

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    I have twitter, google plus, facebook and youtube links pointing to my internal page, yet my root domain is still the one ranking for the keyword.
     
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  8. TrailBlazer

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    I just realized that my internal page that I have optimized for my main keyword ranks in Bing and Yahoo on the first page for that keyword, not my root domain like in google. WTF is google thinking?
     
  9. Techxan

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    I bet your on page seo on the home page is off a little, even though you think it is perfect. May I see it via PM?
     
  10. TrailBlazer

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    It's my home page that's ranking, not my optimized page. I think that's what you meant to say. Sure i'll show it to you.
     
  11. howard_hughes

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    your primary keyword may be competitive thats why phrasekeyword isnt ranking. try building more authority links and frequently post more content "related" to primary keyword. Dont just target the primary keyword, target lsi & related stuff too.
     
  12. basanti

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    Easily fixed issue - PM me your URL; will show you what's needed to be done.
     
  13. TrailBlazer

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    I sent you a PM