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Website Idea?

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by JimJack, Nov 4, 2012.

  1. JimJack

    JimJack Newbie

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    I have an idea for a Website that from asking people would be pretty popular I think. The problem is I have very little capital and zero programming knowledge, and I feel the concept would pretty program intensive. The website would be very active and most of the money would generated through ad revenue, but this is all speculative of course. I wouldn't want to partner up with someone and have my idea stolen. Really clueless to how all of this works?

    My question is what is the best way to go about starting up the website, and I am out of luck and just need to start saving up until I can hire a programmer?

    Thanks for the advice guys, and glad to be apart of this site.
     
  2. JimmyWong

    JimmyWong Registered Member

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    If you're serious about your idea you'll consider learning to code a website.
     
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    bertbaby Elite Member

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    Ideas are plentiful; it's execution that is in short supply!
     
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    I think if you should sign-up a contract with a reputed company and signing NDA is a good move. And it's most probable that your idea will be stolen (if lucrative) if you outsource it to individuals from sites like freelancer & odesk.
     
  5. JimJack

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    Thanks for the info so far guys. I know that I should probably learn how to code, but by the time if would take me to learn how to create a website I could've saved up enough money and have the website up and running. Is there anything on this site where you can work with reputable programmers and such?
     
  6. Duffers5000

    Duffers5000 Elite Member

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    To be honest we all have inspirational ideas for websites......several inspirational ideas for websites......hence why you will find most IMers have a huge surplus of domains sitting around. In a nutshell no matter how good your idea is...it is only 1% of the actual end product...To make the site happen will take lots of planning and lots of work. If you dont have the technical ability you will have to find the money (which may be less than you think) and a decent designer/coder who you can work with (very hard to find the right person) My advice would be to start talking to people about your idea...you dont have to disclose all the details but you will find not everyone is looking to rob your ideas.

    You've just joined...spend a month or two reading on the forum and participating and you will start to see that theres lots of people here willing to help you and wont want anything in return.
     
  7. artizhay

    artizhay BANNED BANNED

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    If you want to PM your idea I wouldn't mind letting you know how coding intensive it really is and if it's viable.
     
  8. Mkaren

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    for start up you dont have to go through extensive programming..try open source resources they are free and easy to install..you can learn pretty much everything in you tube from installation until setting up..Ads is not a good idea to start though but not that bad also..if you really dont have that much of idea then perhaps reading more in this forum could gear the basic you need..

    Ideas are not really yours not until you have executed it properly...it would be useless if you have not taken action to it,
     
  9. the-dream

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    I'd say try and think of other monetization options alongside ads before committing a lot of money. I have a site that's had 50,000 visitors in the last month and made £11.
     
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    Don't send your idea to people begging for it!
     
  11. Zapdos

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    You have very limited choices.

    1) Learn to code and do it yourself. This will take several months if not a year or more for a very basic version. Pros are the only one able to steal your idea is you. Cons... time, security, functionality etc.
    2) Hire a freelancer. Could be fairly expensive but cheaper than a company. Cons: Could be stolen, could be low quality, could be never finished
    3) Hire a company. Will be expensive. Cons: Not too likely to be stolen, could be low quality, you very likely will run out of funds.


    It's very likely you will get screwed. Coders are a dime a dozen, good ones are not. Same with individuals and their ethics; alot just want a quick buck. Also, ideas are common. What you thought of has probably already been and already made as well.

    If you want, you could PM me your idea and I could let you know what premade scripts would be best suited for what you need, and possibly mods to make it quicker. Creating from scratch is expensive, making addons is not. If you just need to marry together addons you could be up and running in a month with minimal cost. Or if you think I'll steal it, no problem as well :p

    Edit: and nevermind, 0 posts. Can't pm me lol
     
  12. nonin

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    well, making 90% of websites takes max 3 days........ but nobody will give a fk.

    <investigate>
    Find a developer through the network of your friends.</investigate>
    <drink> socialise with a developer together with your friends and explain your pain</drink>
    <promise>make him your partner and explain what knowledge, effort and materials you will invest</promise>

    ... start working :)

    gl
     
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    smartass :D

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    JimJack => learn this lesson fast - don't trust your idea anybody who isn't involved (although I doubt that the idea is liveable)

    p.s. please do not contact me.. sh. no, I'm not selling myself :D
     
  14. jazzc

    jazzc Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    ^^ This. If you really believe in your idea, get the required capital to build a prototype and prove the business model in a small scale. Then it will be easier to get investors to bring it on a bigger scale.

    Being an entrepreneur requires strong devotion of time and resources, so be prepared. Profits may come years later - not everything is rosy when implementing an idea.
     
  15. artizhay

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    I don't appreciate being called a smartass when I'm not trying to be one, seeing as how I am trying to help someone who asked a legitimate question. I run an incorporated web design and marketing company based in Texas, have made several large sites for clients, have knowledge of whether something has already been made and whether or not there would be demand for it, and how long it would take to make.

    Most of our larger clients have requested we sign an NDA, which we have done. We are not in the business of stealing ideas if that's what you are trying to imply, but rather we help people turn their ideas into practical online businesses. Therefore, please take your ignorant snide comments elsewhere.
     
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  16. datomcat

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    Read up on the "Lean Startup" technique .. overall its about setting up testable hypotheses to test your idea, business model, implementation plan and ultimate your end goals.

    The objective is to reach the "minimum viable product" (MVP) to get to market quickly. So rather than spending 18 months locked in a room to launch something that's no longer "cool" to the target market - you want to launch something quickly 3-6 months with the *absolute minimum* features possible and evolve it over time. Split test new ideas/features across your users to see which feature/experience they buy-into and move onto the next.

    I heartily recommend looking at your options, if you can get 60-80% of the features you need from a popular open-source Blog or CMS platform like Wordpress of Drupal you will reach your MVP much faster than starting from scratch. Much of these you can get your head around yourself to understand the possibilities and your needs without having to write a single line of code. Best thing is that these platforms are well understood, and finding developers with the skills to extend them to implement your idea/vision is easy.