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Website design less and less looked for/ popular ?

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by mojamalatajna, Feb 3, 2013.

  1. mojamalatajna

    mojamalatajna Regular Member

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    Hello,
    since I'm a web designer myself i was wondering is the search for it going up like i thought so, but i guess i was wrong, the search is going down month by month
    by the looks of it. Here are 2 pictures one is an english term : Website design and other is a term on my language in Croatia (local search).

    As you can see popularity is going down from 2009 to 2013 there is a big difference. (Sorry for pictures being small i dont know why, in LINK there is a larger version)
    International:
    intereworld.jpg
    (larger size)


    Same here
    Local (Croatia) :
    interescroatia.jpg

    So what is it now for us Web Developers/ Designers is there a reason to worry, what can explain this search trend going down ?
     
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  2. mojamalatajna

    mojamalatajna Regular Member

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    Anyone ?
     
  3. EmpireQuality

    EmpireQuality Elite Member

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    just because the keyword is going down, does not mean the entire industry is falling.
    that would be ludicrous to say.
    i think more people are turning towards social media, that is probably the main reason for the keyword going down.
     
  4. brkseven

    brkseven Regular Member

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    At first, design was needed, then redesign, but in the second phase you may not need a search engine as much as before.

    I think it's one of the reasons.

    Not to mention the disillusioned that don't redesign and keep or abandon old websites that don't attract business.

    So better to work on existing clients and build a long term relationship (these clients won't look up web design anymore) than to look for new clients all the time (these are more likely to have to look up the keyword more).

    Just my 2 cents...
     
  5. mojamalatajna

    mojamalatajna Regular Member

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    That is my worst fear, like people not having a need for website anymore cause of Facebook Pages.

    Also we seem to forget about the crisis ..
     
  6. therage

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    People are turning more and more to "self help" for web design. You also might consider that website design and seo firms combined, so in UK you have a firm that does design + seo services. If you feel that the niche is in fast decline and you can't compete then make a new strategy.
     
  7. mikpel

    mikpel Regular Member

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    As long as we have websites there will always be a demand for web designers. What you see in search term popularity is just normal fluctuation, just like any other industry.
     
  8. mojamalatajna

    mojamalatajna Regular Member

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    Oh alright, this eases my mind kind of.
    But the help yourself when it comes to web design is something that isnt good
     
  9. SmileAtmyWins

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    Consider adapting? Just being a website designer isn't going to provide you a steady income for life. Learn some programming languages and SEO. Just saying, a well rounded IM'er always makes good money.
     
  10. mojamalatajna

    mojamalatajna Regular Member

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    I am a Web designer, developer and as we speak i have 2 niche sites ranking on #1 - #2 on Google.

    If someone asks me when they first meet me, im not saying hundred things, only one and that is Web Designer, but if it's business then i speak my mind of :)
     
  11. mojamalatajna

    mojamalatajna Regular Member

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    Anyone else a thought ?
     
  12. Rougemont

    Rougemont Registered Member

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    I lost a job as doing web design/sales at the end of 2012 because the jobs weren't coming in like they used to. Decided to start doing it for myself and made as much in my first year as I was making at my previous job. Now, granted, I also provide SEO and social networking services and offer a sort of website retainer service for a pretty nice price, but I wouldn't say it's on a decline. If anything, I'd say it's on an uptick since 2012 as both I and my former boss have been pretty busy.
     
  13. mojamalatajna

    mojamalatajna Regular Member

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    So you are better off alone as a freelancer ? :)
     
  14. mojamalatajna

    mojamalatajna Regular Member

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    So you are better off alone as a freelancer ? :)

    (sorry for double post)
     
  15. mojamalatajna

    mojamalatajna Regular Member

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    bumppp
     
  16. Reyone

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    Diversification is the key. You can be great at one method, but you need to keep moving and jumping.
    Thats how the jungle works, you either adapt or fall down.

    Just imagine the amount of people who have access to free designs (predesigned templates), now imagine the amount of predesigned templates.

    It is either you are the best and you market yourself immensely well or you'll be outta the game.
     
  17. mojamalatajna

    mojamalatajna Regular Member

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    Im sorry but im not talking here about who is what and how many skills someone has, just about web design search and industry.
    Me myself is good in SEO design and coding but thats not what the title is about. But still thanks for your oppinion
     
  18. LakeForest

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    I can buy a GOOD template off themeforest for ~$10 (which is absurd).

    I spend a few hours tweaking it, and end up with a great product.

    ...Or I can pay someone $hundreds who will do about the same thing I did. Doesn't always happen, but it has, and I was livid. I was overcharged $500 for $50 worth of work.

    Find me a truly talented web designer, who creates their own graphics, who isn't a primadonna, who works efficiently, who enjoys what they're doing, who isn't an outsource shop, who knows design and what looks good, and I will pay just about whatever is asked.

    Everyone has photoshop/gimp/paint these days. Web design for most uses isn't a skill that calls for the rates most people charge, considering the work most of them put in, let's be honest here. Where is the incentive for the extra cost? What do they do that the average IM'er cannot in terms of design? Nothing from what I've seen.

    It's like web design as an industry is stuck in 2004, except for the designers who have cut their rates immensely, and have seen sales skyrocket(people are making a fortune on themeforest).

    Web design needs to get off its high horse IMO, but there will always be a need for them. Hopefully some of them will actually turn into artists...haven't really seen it yet(except from some obscure japanese/korean sites...but holy shit they are amazing in mixing the design with the code and UI/functionality. i'll try to find some urls to share).
     
  19. Nauthiz666

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    I couldnt agree more, lots of web design companies sell BS. I have a seo client that paid 5k for a design, it ended up being a 50 dollar theme they spend a few hours customizing. Rediculous robbery. However for my web design I usually sell sites around 1 to 1.5k and they are 100% custom made on wordpress graphics, layouts etc.
     
  20. WPRipper

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    The online search doesn't reflect the situation. If you look at the first page ( at least in my country ) , the most 'agencies' are doin a a shitty job. Websites made from templates, 3 pictures , some text and thats it. Now put urself in client's shoes, you will hire these 'web designers' to do ur site? The answer is simple, NO. What's the next step? Offline references. This is how i find my clients or how they find me, Also take a note, I DONT HAVE A WEBSITE, but still i get 4-5 projects/month and sometimes i have to deny others because i dont have time.

    The bottom line is this: if you are good and know what u are doin ( not buying Themeforest templates and sell them like is ur work) , then forget about keywords and so on. I charge 500-600 euros at least for a project, coding by me from the first to the last line, graphics also made by me and so on. Hope you got my point.