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Web 2.0 properties PR

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by tygrus, Aug 27, 2010.

  1. tygrus

    tygrus Supreme Member

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    Hoping someone can clarify. Isn't the PR and linkjuice of web 2.0 property only coming from the home page domain? like blogger.com or hubpages.com?

    For instance, Hubpages.com has PR 6, but if I make an article, it will be published as hubpages.com/hub/mypost and then there is no PR down at this level to pass along if you put a link in.

    I think the same thing goes for all web 2.0 sites. So how is PR juice transferred along??
     
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  3. tygrus

    tygrus Supreme Member

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    Exactly.

    another;

    squidoo.com = PR8
    squidoo.com/newlens = PR0

    I have to make a sub section of the main domain to make any posts and throw in my link, but in doing so, I remove all PR. And there is no way to slap a link on the main domain.
     
  4. Rose99

    Rose99 Newbie

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    Yes, but squidoo/lensthathasbeenbacklinked = PRwhatever.

    As with everything, if you backlink the web 2.0s you create, they gain pagerank and you can use links from them to power your website.
     
  5. accelerator_dd

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    They are the parasites, you should link excessively to them so they can gain some PR
     
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    DO NOT FORGET:
    A lot of these sites have specific internal linking structures that you can use and exploit. If exploited properly you can create parasites that have nearly instantaneous PR - although that won't show up until the next update.

    If I saw much more it will end up in every Ebook out there. I can already see things I tell people in PM about SB being blasted all over this board now that I'm not happy about, so ... just look around the pages a bit. It's not hard to figure out.
     
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    But then you are sending the linkjuice into the web 2.0 property. It isn't giving your site any naturally.
     
  8. bobbylove321

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    Another marketing misconception.

    Yes it is correct that if you get a page rank from squidoo that doesn't mean that you are getting a PR8 backlink, however, you are getting a PR0 + Authority Backlink.

    A backlink from squidoo would be worth more in Google's eyes than 10 backlinks from random PR0 websites.

    This is why Angela Edwards got very popular with her forum profile packets because you are getting AUTHORITY links.

    Another misconception is about do-follow and no-follow. Yes do-follow give more "weight" in backlink juice, however, a no-follow still gives you a "vote". The more Votes + Weight + Authority backlinks your site has, then the higher your search engine rankings.
     
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  9. Rose99

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    You place a link on the web 2.0 site to your site - and the juice then passes to your site.

    People seem to be getting very stingy in their thinking - it's all "I don't want to backlink my web 2.0's because it's another site's properties" or "I shouldn't place good material on web 2.0, as it's someone else's property" or "I shouldn't link out from my own site as it helps someone else" or "I shouldn't write a good comments on a someone else's pR4 page, because why should I waste my time like this" etc etc etc.

    If that's your thinking, you are doomed, Doomed! to seek out very low level links which periodically either get deleted or devalued by Google when they work out the footprint.

    Build a decent set of web 2.0's and backlink them so they have pagerank, and then place links on them to your own site - and you have a permanent set of high PR links coming to your site. Put decent content on a web 2.0 and you find that the site moderators don't delete your stuff. Write a good comment on a single high PR page, and you find your comment and link get approved, while all your competitors are blasting the net with stuff that doesn't stick or doesn't get crawled. Sites that generously link out found they survived the Mayday update, sites that were stingily hoarding link juice sank.

    Sometimes you have to give to get, but I guess that's a bit white hat :)
     
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    bobbylove gave a great answer. A low PR page on a high authority domain is worth a lot more than a low PR page on a low authority domain.

    Think about it like this: a shitty studio apartment in Beverly Hills is like a low PR page on a high authority domain. Sure, the apartment might be garbage compared to the mansions down the street, but just the fact that it's in a high-priced neighborhood makes it worth a lot more than the same apartment in the slums.
     
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  11. Rose99

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    Yup, and a high PR page on a high authority domain has even more power. It's worth backlinking your web2.0s just for that.
     
  12. Micallef

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    Great analogy. This is precisely how it works.

    Also, I do know of some properties that start you off on the homepage when you first setup your blog.

    Advantage - faster indexing and brief rankings boost.

    Disadvantage - moderators may delete your blog.


    One service that ranks really well and gets good internal links is blog.co.uk - but it's extremely hard to survive the moderators. I just had a blog deleted for being about a business-related subject, it didn't even have any links except to wikipedia & I lost 2 good freelancer articles!
     
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  13. ADHD-Dude

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    I don't find anything special about blog.co.uk, aged blogs have no PR. I found and old blog with PR 3 and 12k backlinks that has 4-5 links in each article to other site.

    It is like any other platform
     
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    It's got ranking power, Google likes the domain.