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We Are Shaped By Fate, Just As We Shape It

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by LakeForest, Dec 6, 2012.

  1. LakeForest

    LakeForest Supreme Member

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    Disclaimer: If at the end of this video and post you feel discouraged, cold, alone, ask yourself: Is freedom and knowledge worth it, or is it better to live without thought?



    And for some flavor text, from wikipedia:

    "In a little while you will be alone in shoreless space, to wander its limitless solitudes without friend or comrade forever?for you will remain a thought, the only existent thought, and by your nature inextinguishable, indestructible. But I, your poor servant, have revealed you to yourself and set you free. Dream other dreams, and better!"

    "Strange! that you should not have suspected years ago?centuries, ages, eons, ago!?for you have existed, companionless, through all the eternities."

    "Strange, indeed, that you should not have suspected that your universe and its contents were only dreams, visions, fiction! Strange, because they are so frankly and hysterically insane?like all dreams: a God who could make good children as easily as bad, yet preferred to make bad ones; who could have made every one of them happy, yet never made a single happy one; who made them prize their bitter life, yet stingily cut it short; who gave his angels eternal happiness unearned, yet required his other children to earn it; who gave his angels painless lives, yet cursed his other children with biting miseries and maladies of mind and body; who mouths justice and invented hell?mouths mercy and invented hell?mouths Golden Rules, and forgiveness multiplied by seventy times seven, and invented hell; who mouths morals to other people and has none himself; who frowns upon crimes, yet commits them all; who created man without invitation, then tries to shuffle the responsibility for man's acts upon man, instead of honorably placing it where it belongs, upon himself; and finally, with altogether divine obtuseness, invites a poor, abused slave to worship him!" . . .

    "You perceive, now, that these things are all impossible except in a dream. You perceive that they are pure and puerile insanities, the silly creations of an imagination that is not conscious of its freaks?in a word, that they are a dream, and you the maker of it. The dream-marks are all present; you should have recognized them earlier."

    "It is true, that which I have revealed to you; there is no God, no universe, no human race, no earthly life, no heaven, no hell. It is all a dream?a grotesque and foolish dream. Nothing exists but you. And you are but a thought?a vagrant thought, a useless thought, a homeless thought, wandering forlorn among the empty eternities!"



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  2. subster

    subster Elite Member

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    awesome quote! enjoyed the read!
     
  3. florflor

    florflor Senior Member

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    There is no such thing as free will. We are just biological programs. We don't even make decisions, we just think that we do. That was always going to be the decision you made anyway.

    Life is just one big roll of the dice.
     
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    integrity101 Junior Member

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    "Row, row your boat
    Gently down the stream,
    merrily, merrily......
    Life is but a dream"

    Was my kindergarten teacher was right? mmmh, don't know
     
  5. LakeForest

    LakeForest Supreme Member

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    Just to be clear: I am not an atheist.