Wassup with all the negative bashers lately?

Hi,

I'm getting sick of negative people on the forum, so much that I'm thinking of not posting here anymore.

So many negative idiots mostly noobs, here's just an example thread:

Are these noobs jelous or what?
They seem to have some major psychological issues but I just can't figure it out...

I'm sick of all these noobs, if this was my forum I'd ban all the negative repliers in a heartbeat!

I come here to share, learn and discuss not to get upset by negative noobs!

I'm getting sick of all the negative posters lately!

How about you have you noticed an increase in negative posts?

Yep, lot of frustration across the nation

Well . . . Imagine standing in a crowd of 100,000 people and trying to control their actions. That is what we (the staff) are faced with every day.

If you see someone getting out of hand or starting a flame war, hit the REPORT button.

We do the best we can to keep things from getting out of control . . .

Cheers! - "Wiz"

Erik Creed said:

Hi,

I'm getting sick of negative people on the forum, so much that I'm thinking of not posting here anymore.

So many negative idiots mostly noobs, here's just an example thread:

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http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/clickbank/259873-need-affiliates-erik-creeds-underground-bad-boy-dating-blueprint.html

Are these noobs jelous or what?
They seem to have some major psychological issues but I just can't figure it out...

I'm sick of all these noobs, if this was my forum I'd ban all the negative repliers in a heartbeat!

I come here to share, learn and discuss not to get upset by negative noobs!

I'm getting sick of all the negative posters lately!

How about you have you noticed an increase in negative posts?

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Great post. Makes you wonder what you can do, but how about you start by removing your 'thanks' that you have given to a negative comment yesterday, on my thread?

OP, you have issues. People are allowed to express their opinions just like you are. You don't own BHW.

People think your sales copy suck.

Get over it.

Work on it.

Some are on they're periods. But the world is full of criticism.

Everyone is not the same

clade said:

OP, you have issues. People are allowed to express their opinions just like you are. You don't own BHW.

People think your sales copy suck.

Get over it.

Work on it.

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Right and they got a better copy? :hmmm:
My problem is with people who don't know ANYTHIHNG about copy come and bash my copy, apparently kids.

I share my product in this forum because I'm looking for some real feedback, it's a shame that there are too many children around these days.

Professionals don't bash eachothers products, they help eachother out!

Pikachoo said:

Great post. Makes you wonder what you can do, but how about you start by removing your 'thanks' that you have given to a negative comment yesterday, on my thread?

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I thanked a guy that replied "right..." thats like saying "ok...." I tried not to be offensive, that's why I didn't reply.

But now that you mention it reason I thanked that poster was because I felt it was "different" to sell membership to men in skirts. LOL

I just didn't understand what your product was about, is it a "special club" for men in skirts?

Erik Creed said:

Right and they got a better copy? :hmmm:
My problem is with people who don't know ANYTHIHNG about copy come and bash my copy, apparently kids.

I share my product in this forum because I'm looking for some real feedback, it's a shame that there are too many children around these days.

Professionals don't bash eachothers products, they help eachother out!

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I am sorry, I am not a hater and I really hope you do well with your sales but you have gotten some pretty constructive feedback from that guy in your thread. I have to say that when I took a look at your copy I had to agree to a lot of stuff he said. Certainly about the headlines and the good looking guy on your cover and what not.
On the plus side, you have testimonials from ugly dudes so your audience will relate to them at least.
You know what, I am not going to rain on your parade any longer, I wouldn't want you to call me a kid, noob or hater.

Best of luck with your product.
PS.
To answer your question, no I don't think there are more haters on BHW these days and I don't think there are more jealous people on here either.

Maruk said:

I am sorry, I am not a hater and I really hope you do well with your sales but you have gotten some pretty constructive feedback from that guy in your thread. I have to say that when I took a look at your copy I had to agree to a lot of stuff he said. Certainly about the headlines and the good looking guy on your cover and what not.
On the plus side, you have testimonials from ugly dudes so your audience will relate to them at least.
You know what, I am not going to rain on your parade any longer, I wouldn't want you to call me a kid, noob or hater.

Best of luck with your product.
PS.
To answer your question, no I don't think there are more haters on BHW these days and I don't think there are more jealous people on here either.

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It's one thing to point out whats wrong and give advice on how to correct it but it's another to just bash the copy all together.

Calling other peoples work insulting names isn't helping at all.
Which is my point with this thread.

I don't go into a thread and say "hey your copy sucks" or "hey your grahics suck" I offer information such as "your header is too large make it smaller" etc.

Insulting ones work and calling names is not cool.
This is not how business is done online, successful people online don't go around talking shit, instead they offer solid advice and are friendly.

I've been around since the beginning and never have I met so many people flaming others work, which is rude and ain't professional a single bit.

Here's whats going on:
1) I start a thread about a new product I got.
2) I get a reply which calls my copy "shit" and "worst copy ever" etc.
3) I reply letting them know it is infact the best copy in the niche and I ask the person to refer me to a better copy in the same niche.
4) Person replies back calling me "IDIOT" or "STUPID".

My point is all these flamers start attacking you on a personal level when their negative insult towards your work isn't accepted.

So what do I do?
Do I shut up like a slave and say YES SIR I SUCK?

When indeed I know I don't suck...

Truth be told my copy is written by a friend of mine (who recently passed away) This person has generated over 1 million ebook sales.
That's 1 million ebooks, so he knows what the readers want. So when some noob walks in bashing my copy I get pissed off!

How many sales did they make 0?

Point being if you're posting to start a fight don't post at all, this isn't kendergarten. We all got lot's of work to do.

I absolutely agree with the name calling, that is just immature and not neccesary on any level.
Regarding your copy, I am not going to even pretend I know best. I am pretty sure you did your research and have your demographic profiles all written down so I am not too worried.
You know what, you should come back after a month or two and post your results and if they're good it will shut all the haters up and make this a good casestudy on ethics.
That being said, just keep up the good work and remember you're in this business because you like it, doesn't even matter what everybody else thinks.
Cheers buddy.

dude, screw that douche mr. ex, youve got a great looking sales page. O and LLLLOOOOLLLLL when you said you've got people PMing you about dating you.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion NO SINGLE COMPANY, PRODUCT, SALES PITCH, IDEA will please everyone. You just need to please enough people to get rich

Erik Creed said:

Hi,

I'm getting sick of negative people on the forum, so much that I'm thinking of not posting here anymore.


Are these noobs jelous or what?
They seem to have some major psychological issues but I just can't figure it out...

I'm sick of all these noobs, if this was my forum I'd ban all the negative repliers in a heartbeat!

I come here to share, learn and discuss not to get upset by negative noobs!

I'm getting sick of all the negative posters lately!

How about you have you noticed an increase in negative posts?

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I completely agree with you.
The professionalism is depleated within this forum.
sure there is a freedom of speach.
sure people have the right to express their issues and opinions.
sure people can do what they want.

Professional Entrepreneurs, on the other hand, should stand as an example to the noobs.
Being a professional isn't easy.
Everyone on BHW isn't a professional & that is only to be expected.
A lot of the black hatters are more gangster than professional. IMHO

Thx
"Customer Service"