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B. Friendly said:
I think the most relevant division is the 53% of the Producers and the 47% of the Parasites that vote the life's efforts of those that produce into the pockets of those that do not. What strikes me as most appalling is the complete and utter lack of any shame on the part of the dependent class. They REALLY believe they are entitled to the proceeds of someone else's efforts, and become quite hostile when they are told otherwise.
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I don't think those percentages are right, but this is a very good point. There is a class of people in America that believe someone owes them something for having to endure the consequences of their own actions. There is also a class of non citizens who believe the same thing.

Before you go the racism card, there are many more non citizens whom take pride in their self sufficiency, and contribute to society in every way, and I respect them, every one, who do so. It's the deadbeats that are killing us.

True story: After tropical storm Alicia, Houston flooded very badly. Everyone in the neighborhood started cleaning out their homes immediately afterward except one of my neighbors. They simply got a trailer from FEMA, and spent their grant money on tv's and video games. After the whole neighbor hood was fixed, these people still had not even started cleaning their home out, and finally the local churches put together a team of volunteers to help them clean up the place.

So the volunteers showed up they started cleaning up the mess. My neighbors never even came out of the trailer and helped. Never got them a glass of water, not even a trash bag.. They let the volunteers clean out the whole house that had sat there for a year. The sat on their asses in the trailer and did nothing.

The kicker? During the flood the back fence was knocked down, and they kept their 3 dogs in the house while they lived in the trailer, AND THEY NEVER CLEANED UP AFTER THEM. The house was full of what you are thinking it was. The volunteers had to clean it all out.

Some people are leeches. Some politicians are enablers.
 
Techxan said:
I don't think those percentages are right, but this is a very good point. There is a class of people in America that believe someone owes them something for having to endure the consequences of their own actions. There is also a class of non citizens who believe the same thing.

Before you go the racism card, there are many more non citizens whom take pride in their self sufficiency, and contribute to society in every way, and I respect them, every one, who do so. It's the deadbeats that are killing us.

True story: After tropical storm Alicia, Houston flooded very badly. Everyone in the neighborhood started cleaning out their homes immediately afterward except one of my neighbors. They simply got a trailer from FEMA, and spent their grant money on tv's and video games. After the whole neighbor hood was fixed, these people still had not even started cleaning their home out, and finally the local churches put together a team of volunteers to help them clean up the place.

So the volunteers showed up they started cleaning up the mess. My neighbors never even came out of the trailer and helped. Never got them a glass of water, not even a trash bag.. They let the volunteers clean out the whole house that had sat there for a year. The sat on their asses in the trailer and did nothing.

The kicker? During the flood the back fence was knocked down, and they kept their 3 dogs in the house while they lived in the trailer, AND THEY NEVER CLEANED UP AFTER THEM. The house was full of what you are thinking it was. The volunteers had to clean it all out.

Some people are leeches. Some politicians are enablers.
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I love this post (which is so freakin' true). I think you should run for office! LOL
 
Techxan said:
Careful now. Texas has many cultures and our economy is doing quite well thank you. Houston is as modern and diverse as any city in the world. Even liberals like it here. For the record. Texas isn't all tumbleweeds, rattlesnakes, rednecks and cactus. We have lush forests, grasslands, wetlands, a fabulous hill country, and the friendliest people on average that I have seen in all my travels.
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You just backed up what I said lol. There is a big difference in the culture and industries in both of those "countries". Texas is the 15th largest economy in the world,and contains a little more then 10% of the fortune 500 companies. Rhode Island is a tiny economy of only $33 billion.
 
imperial444 said:
I like US, but like places like New York, South Cali, South Florida. Everything else is not worth considering myself to move.
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I was born and raised in the US. New York City and Florida are my two favorite places.
 
erniedawg said:
Canada is like USA's attic, we know its there, but no one wants to go there.. lol:AR15firin
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Well according to a recent article, canada made it to fifth place for the top 10 happiest countries , USA didnt even make the list . http://travel.yahoo.com/ideas/world...WxhcnRpY2xlcwRwdANzdG9yeXBhZ2U-;_ylv=3?page=5

I think people get confused between a good quality of life and a country that is materialistic/capitalist like USA. USA is ok, but i definitely want to move out of here
 
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shaddelick said:
Well according to a recent article, canada made it to fifth place for the top 10 happiest countries , USA didnt even make the list . http://travel.yahoo.com/ideas/world...WxhcnRpY2xlcwRwdANzdG9yeXBhZ2U-;_ylv=3?page=5

I think people get confused between a good quality of life and a country that is materialistic/capitalist like USA. USA is ok, but i definitely want to move out of here
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You're going to find materialistic people all over the world. It's just the way some people are. I love America. I can go wherever I want to go, do what I want, wear what I want, worship God freely, and be what I want to be. It seems like the in thing to do lately is bash the US. Not saying you, just saying from people in general. Anyone who doesn't like it is welcome to leave. It's really no big deal who stays and who goes.
 
Krazy Kitty said:
I remember a time online (and I'm going back well over a decade) where people behaved with the kind of respect and decency you would find if you were to meet the collective in person. Wherever you go nowadays - IMDB boards, forums like this, chat rooms - people are such cruel and unpleasant little b*stards. I remember when the internet was a much friendlier place. It's ugly now. And made so by the people in it.
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10 years ago the user volume and demographics were totally different and I think that more or less explains the difference.
 
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jazzc said:
10 years ago the user volume and demographics were totally different and I think that more or less explains the difference.
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I don't agree at all, having studied statistics for 7 years in college.

It's too easy to say there were less people (we're still talking millions, of course) and the majority of users were of a demographic that are known to be friendly (which demographic would that be exactly?) but the argument is spurious.

Now . . .

If you would have applied that hypothesis to a group of 5 people who were known philanthropists and inclined to be friendly and altruistic, we could say that the demographic and volume was likely to display a higher level of friendliness than our impression of the average user on the internet today.

But that's not the case.

Even a decade ago, or more, there were millions of internet users, represented by pretty much every demographic known to civilization.

So...

I disagree.
 
You assume that your sample is homogeneous in regards to volume.
 
jazzc said:
You assume that your sample is homogeneous in regards to volume.
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This debate will go nowhere unless you can understand what I've stated. Reason being: I'll have to keep restating it in new ways and further edify you.

I don't assume that at all.

What I have proposed is this: the typical internet user 20 years ago was likely to treat people he met online differently than his modern day counterpart and the reason for this is because he was used to encountering people in a real-life setting, as opposed to a virtual one. Furthermore, since the average person is predisposed not to be negative to strangers he meets in the real world, and the internet user 20 years ago was less accustomed to virtual communication, it is my hypothesis that he would be more friendly than his counterpart 20 years into the future. If you think it through, it's all very logical. Although, I don't expect everyone to agree.

And let's not forget: we had over 3 million users in 1990, most of whom from North America, and since I generally converse still with North Americans, I don't think it's biased data.

I've been plugged into the net most of my life and, without even referring to this hypothesis in any intellectual way, my overall sense is that people are now, on average, less hospitable than 20 or 25 years ago. For instance, anyone who has wandered into chat rooms over the last quarter century will know precisely what I mean: instead of acting how we would in a real-life setting (being more tolerant, being polite, and so forth), the typical user (the keyboard warrior) is known to act anything but how he or she would in a physical setting.

Just my opinion, of course.
 
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