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video ranking on top without any link building!!

Discussion in 'YouTube' started by markcooper006, Aug 23, 2013.

  1. markcooper006

    markcooper006 Junior Member

    My competitor's YT video is ranking on 2nd spot without a single link! I have built huge amount of links but still m no where for that keyword! I have got retention views as well.
    This is about ranking in google.
    P.S. all Onpage done and bought views too. :(
     
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  2. ibmethatswhoib

    ibmethatswhoib Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    You talking about ranking on YT or Google?
     
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  3. Valefor

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    i'm sure if he is ranking next to you , you consider that as Youtube search engine
     
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  4. markcooper006

    markcooper006 Junior Member

    he is ranking both in google and youtube!
     
  5. Skyebug77

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    Get some likes, comments and other social shares. Make your numbers bigger than his. :)
     
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  6. markcooper006

    markcooper006 Junior Member

    I have more likes, comments than him. Got some retention views too but still!
    One thing I would like to say is he has uploaded the same video multiple times to his channel, does this makes any difference?
     
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    HOW LONG AGO did you start building backlinks?

    This is really important.
    And yes, if he has multiple videos in his account, targeting similar keywords, it will
    make it easier for him to rank. But those types of videos are easy to overtake.

    Social shares can help expedite the process.

    But how old are your links?
    And how old is his video compared to yours?

    If your video is new, and theres no other videos in your account, and you just built a ton of backlinks it can
    take 6-8 weeks just to rank in google. There are a lot of other things that can play a role too.

    But right now I'm curious about WHEN you started building the links? Like when did you notice a lot of them
    being indexed? 1 week ago? 2? 3? More?
     
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  8. markcooper006

    markcooper006 Junior Member

    I uploaded my vid after 2 weeks of his uploading date(mid july)
    Soon after that I started building links.
    Majestic seo shows 48058 links and 418 ref domains to my video

    what kind of social shares are you talking about? fb shares and tweets?
     
  9. hardcorebiker

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    That's because you dont have enough views to prove your backlink count. I would say that you keep building more links and in time it will rank higher. Youtube videos react the same way if you build fast links to them with less views..Also forget social shares..They dont do shit...not even likes and comments. Views+backlinks is what ranks a video(Tried and Tested)
     
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  10. qlithe

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    Is it just plain views or does the retention matter?
     
  11. markcooper006

    markcooper006 Junior Member

    I have already added good amount of retention views mate. still no improvement.

    Looks like YT has changed some algo
     
  12. markcooper006

    markcooper006 Junior Member

    Retention views .
     
  13. dexxtaa

    dexxtaa Regular Member

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    Youtube
    + Views
    + Likes
    + Subscribers
    + Embeds
    + Comments
    + Time

    Google
    + Backlinks
    + embeds
    + Social signals
    + Time


    always remember Quality content overpowers quantity anyday.


    Beat your competitor in each of these things and tell me hes still on top of you.
     
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  14. markcooper006

    markcooper006 Junior Member

    Thanks mate,
    Though all this has been done, I will emphasize on embeds and social signals more and will keep this thread updated :)
     
  15. Nubss

    Nubss Registered Member

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    Hi,

    Since we are talking about ranking a YT video on Google my question is that if there are no videos for a particular Exact match Keyword on the first page of google would it be easy to rank for a video with that keyword on the first page since there are no other videos?
     
  16. dexxtaa

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    The question is very braud - Some Niches Yes its easy to do so, others no. Trial and error is your best route buddy.
    In my opinion it will be harder to get that video up on front page if the video ISNT there.

    keyword volume and competition also plays a HUGE role in this.


    so in short, Test it out.
     
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  17. markcooper006

    markcooper006 Junior Member

    This depends on how competitive the keyword is. If there is less competition you can rank it easily
     
  18. hardcorebiker

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    Yes they did change the Algorithm some 20 days back. Many have reported that their videos aren't ranking as fast as before just by SEO'ing. I did a test recently where I built tons of backlinks with hardly any views and it wasn't ranking at all..but now after 1 month its ranking no 1 in google and youtube its around 10(Probably because I haven't boosted it yet). My competitor had some half million views with natural likes and commentsso you can gauge the competition but not many backlinks..Now my video with just around 5k views is beating it in google.

    So the point here is get slightly more views than your competitor in your niche and backlink it consistently..It wont get ranked instantly but surely it will rank after some time and will stick around for long time.
     
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  19. markcooper006

    markcooper006 Junior Member

    Thanks hardcorebiker,
    Rep added. :)
    I am working on it and will update this thread with some good news ;)
     
  20. Mr.Julyan

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    You may lose in "time" factors, but emphasizing on social signals is a good move. I notice that YT will rank a video higher when it is shared by more people.