VCTRFS Money Making Journal

I was slightly hesitant posting this thread because of all the people that annoy and flame it with their stupidity. But I've been getting alot of people on skype and my inbox daily asking me questions and telling me that I've helped them, so this thread is for them. If you have the awsome ability to complain, then you obviously don't want to really make money.

Before I begin I want to tell you about a quote I heard somewhere, its not exactly as he said it, but you'll get the point(10 Koopa Coins if you guess it right!)
" I saw a man who was making money hand over fist, I asked him to help me and he said for me to meet him in the beach at early AM. When I got there he led me to the water and asked me if I was really hungry to make alot of money.Of course I said yes, and he held me underwater for a while, until I felt like I was going to pass out. When he finally took my head out of the water, he said you have to be hungry like that if you want to earn the BIG money"

This is a quote that stood with me for a while, and makes perfect sense. If you guys really want to make money, then you have to be hungry. I'm pretty sure that people who made alot of money online, did'nt do it by cut,copy,paste BS methods. I know I posted 2 journey's before, but now I have one that I have been making money on for a while and I want to show you all 3.

1. Youtube Video's CPA- This month I made so far about $125.00. To tell you guys the honest truth, I did'nt really do much, I know people here online that make more than that, and to be 100% This isn't something I reccomend for everyone. This method is quickly becomming saturated and will eventually dry up, if not produce very little income. I probably worked all of 4 hours to make this money and I know I could've made alot this month, but you have to realize that even though you are making money now, you really want to earn that "passive income". This is a good method for those who want to earn some quick money. I will not be posting these updates of this on this thread because it's being done on multiple threads, and I don't hussle as hard as others to make money on this. Still good money though...for now.

2. Amazon Publisher-I found this method out early this month and DAMN. So far, I've made about $450 with very little work. I found a .pdf of how to do it and if anyone wants it, PM me. NOTE: This .pdf will be a fileice one, so don't complain. This method WILL make you money, and if you don't believe me, that's cool. No sweat off my forehead. I will also probably be not posting updated about this, since I get alot of downloads of my books. Currently, I have about 10 books, but that number will most likely rise to 50 next month.

3. Amazon Associates- So far this method is my passive income cow. The amazon publisher one is also, but you have to realize that there are days in which nobody will buy your book, and having uncertainty as your passive income stream, isn't a smart way to gain. Here are my result for this month

TOTAL EARNINGS *
$321.51



I am using Fuserleer's method, which I can't seem to find on the forums. This is what I will be showing you guys from day to day on this thread. I don't have a copy of his method, since I pretty much just memorized it all. A couple of month ago when he posted his thread alot of people either asked for the .pdf or denied it worked. The thing is that, it has been making me money so from my end it works. I add items to my site daily though, which I would suggest for anyone who is doing this method to do. I can stop anytime(like a drunk) and make $10-$75 a day, but I kinda like money alot so I dedicate some time daily on adding items, modifying my site to make it more appealing. Currently, I have 2 website's setup.

My earnings vary from day to day, but one this is guaranteed and that is I am making money everday doing this. This is what I made is from 15 days of doing this with about 250 items on my sites. I just got some more "tools" that will help me in getting more items to my website.

My items=more money=more stuff I can buy that I don't really need

I will be posting daily about how many order's I sold and how much I made for the day.

Day 1
Orders-24
Earnings-$31.59

Your first day's earnings is as amazon publisher using that google shopping listing method?

For amazon publisher, I have another method...it does'nt use google shopping though. I use google shopping with my 3rd method with amazon associate.

vctrfs said:

Amazon Publisher-I found this method out early this month and DAMN. So far, I've made about $450 with very little work. I found a .pdf of how to do it and if anyone wants it, PM me. NOTE: This .pdf will be a fileice one, so don't complain.

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lol on this

Hate up on this all you want. You don't have to download this if you want to, since I am making money off of this. I am just using this as a point of reference as another referral source. If you think, I'm going to bendover back to make it easy for you to earn about $400.00 + a month off my methods, then you should quit right now and work at McDonalds.

If there is a handout at BHW, your probably playing with a saturated method. Someone actually said this on some thread awhile ago, and it really makes perfect sense.

Checkout how bad google feeds was when fuseleer showed his method. It took me 3 months to get approved because they was so backed up with people hitting thier servers.

vctrfs said:

Hate up on this all you want. You don't have to download this if you want to, since I am making money off of this. I am just using this as a point of reference as another referral source. If you think, I'm going to bendover back to make it easy for you to earn about $400.00 + a month off my methods, then you should quit right now and work at McDonalds.

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Why the flame. I was just laughing at the fact that you're trying to make money off the backs of BHW users. Don't worry ... I don't want your method and never wanted it in the first place because I pay more in taxes in a month then what you make in six kid.

OMFG, this kid is ridiculous. I made this thread to helpout others, and so what if the file is on fileice, if people want it I will give it to them, if not then I don't care either ways.

My favorite part of your comment is when you said about you making more money,lol. That was funny....
You know what else is funny? Its the fact that I, or anyone else who read this thread cares. This thread is for people who want to make money and gain some inspiration. This isn't for some random jackass saying that he has money. Create your own thread about how you are so damn rich and besides your parents and husband, nobody else on this forum is going to care.

Basically what I am trying to say to you is....go throw your insecurities and ego in a pond and make a wish people cared that you make $50 a week off some saturated crap.

Wow, you seem to get pretty defensive...Life is full of people who will push your buttons, I would suggest simply ignoring them instead of wasting any time or emotion on letting them know what you think. But, that's just how I look at it. You, of course, are free to handle negativity in your own way. ;P

I am not trying to 'flame', 'troll', or even 'kick a dead horse', but the FileICE thing may be against the forum rules. I know that there were rules previously about using certain filesharing services (mainly ones that allowed the uploader to profit), however you may want to check with a Mod to be certain.

Anyhow, back to the method, I have been monitoring your progress with this method because I started using it about the same time. I agree with you on some things such as using opencart, however I think I should chime in an remind you that using google analytics isn't very wise while you are exploiting one of google's services. I personally installed a 3rd party open source tracking system.

The other thing I wanted to remind you is that posting your exact method, and exact numbers for a day allows people from affiliate networks to come in and match up your account with fraud and not pay you. Perhaps you should round the numbers up or down and not post the amount of orders. Again, this is up to you.

If you have not already, you should re-invest into having a script written (if you can't code it yourself of course) to use Amazon's API to scrape new products and automatically add them to the store. Adding them one by one is going to slow the whole thing down. I have nearly 1600 products in my first store, it took roughly an hour to import them. So instead of adding new items to that first store one by one, I could focus instead on creating more stores in different niches.

One other thing I wanted to bring up was the use of the aStore as the secondary site. I don't really think that is a good idea as it creates some limitations in regards to redirection and referrer tracking and enables more possibility of Amazon catching on to it. The way I solved this 'issue' was to use a second installation of opencart that feeds off the same products database as the main store. This 2nd store checks the referrer to ensure the visitor is coming from the 1st store and if so then will redirect to the amazon product page.

Some may say that I am just being paranoid, and perhaps I am, but in all my years of AM I have never had a payment withheld...As with all things blackhat, one of the biggest factors of how long something will work is how well you cover your tracks from the start.

Anyhow, best of luck to you!

I respect the post you did(Post above this one)! I did the fileice thing, because thats where I got this book from. I am not going to setup an account on mediafire to give this book away, since I did'nt really create it. I did throw a couple of spins on this method and made some nice money off it. But you are right....for now on, I won't be offering this method to anyone. To the 10-11 people I sent the ebook to, please let me know how your experience is. But I won't be sending anymore books to anyone else.

You make a great point about the google analytics, and if you can please PM a good personal website tracker, that would be really helpful, If not thats cool, I will probably be looking online for one after I do this post. About the stats, you have another good point and for NOW ON, I want everyone to know that the numbers I post with be a estimate of what I really make. I don't want to lose this money guys, sry.

I don't use my astore as a redirect site. I mean, I tried it and the creator the this method, Fuseleer said to do it, but I am trying something different. As for Fuseleer, I was chatting away with him today and asking him why he was banned. Someguy on this forum(not mentioning names) claimed that Dan's site owed him money. Dan paid the guy and even had proof to show it, but he still got banned. You know, honestly since the first day he posted his method, he has really been helping out alot of people with his knowledge. And for 1 guy to say that about him and dan get banned even when he had proof was really not cool. I'm just saying, he did have some great insight and it's really messed up how he got played in the end...

As for my journey today:
Day 3
Orders-24
Earnings-$34.59


I can't be anymore happier!!! I mean, I have added some more products to my site and I currently hovering around $30 a day! Who the balls can say that in 2 weeks they will be hovering around that! Now to throw knives, but alot of the Youtube+CPA methods have varying days, but I've rarely have days that I make less than the previous day. I mean, I did just get about $125.00 from fileice for my work, but I will be getting more doing this. Amazon EST, that this month I will be making a little over $500, from my associate account and $400 from my publisher account. I'm not bragging, this all took alot of work but thats what it is. If you guys think you can cut,copy,paste a method and think your going to make real money then you obviously hav'nt been reading this forum correctly.

BTW good luck back at you http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/members/13059-drdankmendez.html .And anyone else who is working hard to make money online!

Nice thread ! I will follow this one !

looks cool. i dont know nothing about amazon and stuff , could u send me that pdf download link + a little tut on how to start from 0 ? (i got 0 knowledge about amazon publisher or those , never entered their site )

I'm subscribing, I wanna learn more about Amazon.

All the best Vctrfs!

HeY guys, how is everyone doing today! I just found out some bad new....for some people.

http://www.toptenwholesale.com/news/google-free-product-listings-15563.html

This was brought to my attention from another member of this forum. Google shopping will go from FREE to PAID. There are so much more for me to do now with my site(s), but honestly this helps me more than hurts and let me explain why to everyone below:

-GOOD-
-weeds out merchants who can't afford it, means more people will visit my site
-listing the lowest for a product will now almost guarantee $$$
-Adwords coupons work! Can you say coupon it up and make $$$

-Bad-
-Chance of actually paying(lower earnings)
-Balancing what sell's and lot of mod's to prices to be the LOWEST

There are alot of goods in with this bad, but going into this method I know I have alot of work on my hands. On the plus side, I have been submitting my feeds to other e-merchants, so the money I have been actually making has been more(I just felt the amazon method is better $). If you guys want to get in on this method, you still can but you have to realize now its going to cost money.

Day 6
Orders-7
Earnings-$12.55

Hello , I had used furseleer method too.

I was making quite a lot of money , although all my amazon accounts were banned.

How did they get banned?

Razorbl said:

Hello , I had used furseleer method too.

I was making quite a lot of money , although all my amazon accounts were banned.

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Were you washing your traffic properly?

Were they brand new accounts that went from $0 to $XXX in a day?

Did you have multiple accounts with amazon, if so were you using proxies/clearing cache before checking them?

Was your conversion rate abnormally high?

Did they provide any reason or insight as to why they banned you?