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VB .NET & DELPHI - How difficult is it to develop SEO tools

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by entri3, Jul 25, 2012.

  1. entri3

    entri3 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    What programming languages would you recommend to develop tools in SEO?
    VB .NET DELPHI Or something else?

    How difficult is it for a well experienced person ( 6+ months ) to develop a SEO tool like SENuke?
    Thoughts?
     
  2. theAngle

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    6 months to start learning and practice something in software, seriously??

    You gotta be very n00b to have this ETA. This is not that hard, grab some books and you can start programming in 15 days. You can create program with any language, today. PHP, Java, Javascript, C/C++, C# or any other just go with one that you have lots of material to study.
     
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    I would suggest you to learn c#. there you get a lot of stuff online....i had chosen vb.net but that was not as good choice as c#
     
  4. entri3

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    I'm not very sure when it comes to programming.
    Which one would be reliable when it comes to designing SEO tools. ( Sockets, web based apps & stuff ).

    C# Delphi, VB, .Net.
    Suggestions would be nice so that i can avoid wasting time.
     
  5. shaggy93

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    Delphi is quite good for creating the bot but learning curve is a little tough.

    I would prefer go for the C# instead of vb.net.
     
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    Reading some books is NOT going to make you a great Programmer.

    Along with reading,you need to code regularly and practice more harder than you read.

    If you can read and code and practice again and again,you are good to go.
     
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    In terms of speed, stability, reliability, flexibility & easy to code faster which ones would you suggest.
     
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    Go with C#, even though I am a big fan of Delphi. Delphi doesn't have the community C# has, nor the resources to start bot development.
     
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    that is not dependent on the language but the coder in it self.

    Stable bots = bug free, coder has done it right.
    Speed = again the coder has to optimize the code.
    Reliabilty = most languages has a long lifetime. delphi(old pascal) has had some up and downs but are still active.
    felxibilty = as a coder you need to be createive. what is included in one langue is not included in another and you have to make the routines yourself
    Easy to code= as long as you learn a RAD language you will find it easy and fast when you get to know it.
     
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    nope, just MAAAAAAAAAAAXIMUM estimate :))

     
  12. HatIsBlack

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    hehe, 6month maximum? well yes. probably you have gained enough knoledge to make a bot in a week. However the quality of the bot will be a dissaster.
    I have been coding for over 20 years and you will not gain the thinking and a solid structuring of code with that short amount of time. that requires at least some years of experience.
    but yea, you can make softwares within a week if you have the interest and dicipline to learn.
     
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    I recommend C# because it will save lot of time.;)
     
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    I hope you're seriously not trying to make another SENukeX, UltimateDemon, MagicSubmitter, etc. bot. You will not beat these three. Don't waste your time unless you're going to:

    * offer a low one-time fee (which you won't because you want to earn money); or,
    * offer a low monthly payment (which you won't because you want to earn money)

    Soooooo many have tried and failed to de-throne these kings---igniteSEO, Vi Submitter, etc. Just don't do it. You shouldn't try to make tools that already exists.
     
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    never. tools just for personal usage.

     
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    VB.NET is pretty easy to learn, so give that a go. Trying to create a software product that will overtake the current competition is a completely different matter though. Start small, and work your way up.
     
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    I would recommend Delphi 7, you can pick up a free version on the web and the book "Teach yourself Borland Delphi in 21 days". This will get you off to a good start.

    Programming bots will require still more learning but when you can create a simple sign-up bot to something you will be on your way.

    As for making your own SENukeX, I have been a C++, Delphi, ASM coder since the 90's and I would have a long talk with myself before attempting something so ambitious. :)
     
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    vb.net, c#.net, Delphi.net. if you have choices and will make something complex, go for c#.Net.

    C# has much more resource than vb.net, although literally they are almost the same. However, vb.net is much easier to get it started.

    As for programming bot, it depends on how complex the bot is. if you know programming already, you can pickup basically vb.net quickly. however, do not expect you be an expert in a short time. if in 6 months you can be an expert of vb.net, you can get more than $100K job easily.

    good luck
     
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    The programming language is just a tool, they all can accomplish the same thing if you know how to use the "tool".
    Check out some "Hello World" code for both of them and see what style suits you better.
     
  20. macdonjo3

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    You've obviously learned nothing about programming in these 6 months. If you have the ability to do it, you should be able to answer the question yourself.
    SENuke hired a massive and I believe they said it costed over $150,000 to develop.