VALIDATING An Online Course Idea?

I am fascinated how you will create a course, plus website, plus supporting materials, on topics you evidently have zero experience with!

But I guess you hope is fools and money will be easily parted.

The unfortunate truth is they aren't.

You will sell practically ZERO at that price, unless you can offer MORE, like SUPPORT, MENTORING, videos, plus an authority site to sell from.

Oh, plus an established and knowledgeable social media presence.

Basically they will need to trust you and invest in YOU.

I'm betting that's not gonna happen, as your strategy appears to be to repackage shit and sell it on.

But you go for it, man.

BassTrackerBoats said:

1 thousand?

Did you say one K?

Seriously?

Yeah, you are a gamer for sure.

• Fake guru idea.
• Rehash someone's course/ideas (Pure WF material, Baby!).
• Thinking a list of 1,000 is anything.

Go get 'em, tiger.

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I'm just being super conservative.

How many emails do you think I can get in 3 months if I post an article 15x a month + post on IG everyday?

Fake Guru Idea = Ok, but it still gives customers value and makes me money for my family.

Rehash someone's course/ideas = Again, reference to above. Btw, all content on the internet is re-packaged, man.

Thinking a list of 1,000 is anything = That makes me feel even better, given I can achieve so much more then that in 3 months then. I just saw a Neil Patel article saying how to get to 20K UNIQUE VISITORS in 90 days. Imagine if just 25% (5,000) of that became subscribers.

charliebrooker said:

I am fascinated how you will create a course, plus website, plus supporting materials, on topics you evidently have zero experience with!

But I guess you hope is fools and money will be easily parted.

The unfortunate truth is they aren't.

You will sell practically ZERO at that price, unless you can offer MORE, like SUPPORT, MENTORING, videos, plus an authority site to sell from.

Oh, plus an established and knowledgeable social media presence.

Basically they will need to trust you and invest in YOU.

I'm betting that's not gonna happen, as your strategy appears to be to repackage shit and sell it on.

But you go for it, man.

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Dude, I'll just create a website that's GENERALLY focused towards entrepreneurship (eg. www.founder.com ) and use social media (Instagram) to rapidly grow from traffic and followers wise.

That traffic then hits my site where I'm re-packaging articles 15-30X a month of valuable content (Valuable Content)

Along with a lead magnet that works (BAIT)

And then I sell a re-packaged course with an authority endorsing it. (TRUST)

And my site will continually get more and more authority as I grow (Becoming an authority over time).

I don't understand what's so difficult to get about that not being a typical successful customer journey? Social Follow > Unique Visitor > Email Lead > Autoresponder Email Sequence > Sale

Because, they've gone through my customer journey and seen TRUST/AUTHORITY built from my SOCIAL MEDIA + WEBSITE + EMAILS + AUTHORITY ENDORSING.

Think about it, lol. I'm not re-inventing the wheel.

PS: The fact that you think $497 is a high price for a course is kind of odd, given there's tons of courses out there selling for $997 (Too many to name) all the way to $4997 (Amazing Selling Machine).

Have you never bought or seen a $497 or higher online course before? lol

CanuckHat said:

Dude, I'll just create a website that's GENERALLY focused towards entrepreneurship (eg. www.founder.com ) and use social media (Instagram) to rapidly grow from traffic and followers wise.

That traffic then hits my site where I'm re-packaging articles 15-30X a month of valuable content (Valuable Content)

Along with a lead magnet that works (BAIT)

And then I sell a re-packaged course with an authority endorsing it. (TRUST)

And my site will continually get more and more authority as I grow (Becoming an authority over time).

I don't understand what's so difficult to get about that not being a typical successful customer journey? Social Follow > Unique Visitor > Email Lead > Autoresponder Email Sequence > Sale

Because, they've gone through my customer journey and seen TRUST/AUTHORITY built from my SOCIAL MEDIA + WEBSITE + EMAILS + AUTHORITY ENDORSING.

Think about it, lol. I'm not re-inventing the wheel.

PS: The fact that you think $497 is a high price for a course is kind of odd, given there's tons of courses out there selling for $997 (Too many to name) all the way to $4997 (Amazing Selling Machine).

Have you never bought or seen a $497 or higher online course before? lol

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All I read in this thread is HOT air no one is stopping you to do it. We're only advising you that it is not that simple. Go execute what ou want to do. Come back and discuss it again. You might or not achieve it. It will be an experience.

Maybe you’ll get lucky enough to find like one person willing to pay that price. But it’s unlikely tbh. Your best bet would be to target old people probably

CanuckHat said:

Dude, I'll just create a website that's GENERALLY focused towards entrepreneurship (eg. http://www.founder.com ) and use social media (Instagram) to rapidly grow from traffic and followers wise.

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Given how defensive you are of the idea, and how many threads you've created seeking better answers, it seems to me like you're asking for permission rather than advice.

If you're convinced that you have everything figured out, and you know exactly what held back the thousands of failed gurus who came before you, then by all means take action and be successful.

But at the moment all you have is a rehashed plan and no results, so don't expect anyone to pat you on the back for your efforts.

Here i have given the simple 5 steps by which you can easily validate your online course idea.The 5 steps are:
Step 1: Determine your minimum viable outcome
Step 2: Choose your pilot type and price
Step 3: Plan your pilot curriculum
Step 4: Sell your pilot
Step 5: Proceed or Pivot

CanuckHat said:

Think about it man, that same customer wouldn't get that same QUALITY Content that I got from a QUALITY Course if they hadn't found me.

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Why do you exactly think this? you are a marketing god and can reach all those people who never find a course like this before?

CanuckHat said:

all that matters is the CUSTOMER gets the Quality Content in His/Her hands!

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What a joke. I can rob a jewelry and sell the stolen necklaces to customers. Is it wrong to do that? I mean, all that matters is that the customers gets quality.

Beside that you state that dropshipping is the easiest ways for noobs to enter. You say almost litteraly you don't know where you're talking about: It looks simple but running a store is quite complex if you don't know what you are doing. even just a course won't help noobs.

Also every country has it own laws and rules around E-commerce which makes it WAY more difficult than affiliate marketing or some other methods. Dropshipping is like running a normal store without the overhead but with the same responsibilities.

CanuckHat said:

Thinking a list of 1,000 is anything = That makes me feel even better, given I can achieve so much more then that in 3 months then. I just saw a Neil Patel article saying how to get to 20K UNIQUE VISITORS in 90 days. Imagine if just 25% (5,000) of that became subscribers.

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That Neil did 20.000 visitors in 90 days is because of his experience. Some find Neil debatable but he offers a lot of content and he is an authority. Just saying, WHO ARE YOU?!

And an authority endorsing it? Are you gonna tell "Hey promote my course I really don't know anything from and I just copied from someone else?" Or are you gonna lie to them too with a story it is your own high quality course? Curious which 'authorities' wants to work with you.

You are going for a semi high ticket pricing and think you sell like hot cakes because of 'the content has great value'. First of all, how do I really know you deliver value? If I'm interested in a course Ill check the track record of the seller if he really has experience in this field.

And what if the one where you copied the content from finds out you stole his content? Rehashing isn't legit by default.

mrweebanimeguy said:

Maybe you’ll get lucky enough to find like one person willing to pay that price. But it’s unlikely tbh. Your best bet would be to target old people probably

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I am now convinced that you know nothing about the online course market where courses sell for $497-$4.997.

People BUY from authorities that they trust and gladly pay $497.

Plus ill have a $20/mo paid membership section too.

Mediawiz said:

That Neil did 20.000 visitors in 90 days is because of his experience. Some find Neil debatable but he offers a lot of content and he is an authority. Just saying, WHO ARE YOU?!

And an authority endorsing it? Are you gonna tell "Hey promote my course I really don't know anything from and I just copied from someone else?" Or are you gonna lie to them too with a story it is your own high quality course? Curious which 'authorities' wants to work with you.

You are going for a semi high ticket pricing and think you sell like hot cakes because of 'the content has great value'. First of all, how do I really know you deliver value? If I'm interested in a course Ill check the track record of the seller if he really has experience in this field.

And what if the one where you copied the content from finds out you stole his content? Rehashing isn't legit by default.

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Dude! I'm GOING to have an Authority myself in 3-6 months after working at it.. AND I'll use other authorities reputations too.

Im going to simply tell the authority that I made this course and to do an affiliate style deal with me.

"Semi high ticket pricing"? Dude, its $497. Not $1997. Not $997. Have you any understanding of the online course market?

Of course I'll prove to you that I have value after I get you on my list and go through my content + you'll see that the course is endorsed by another guy WITH A TRACK RECORD!
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BOTTOM LINE: People buy $497 courses from AUTHORITIES. I'll create an authority after 3-6 months of posting 50 articles + 500 Instagram posts. And I'll build a big list... and during that 3-6 months I'll have tons of experts aligned with me via interviews. Then I'll become an authority AND.. I'll have an authority already endorsing my product to make people buy.

Plus I'll have a $20/mo membership section too.

I got authority (my own and another authority) to sell a $497 product to 18-35 year olds.

Anyways, I'll go ahead and do it.

CanuckHat said:

Dude! I'm GOING to have an Authority myself in 3-6 months after working at it..

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In 3 to 6 months as an authority, good luck. Don't say it's impossible but a hard job. Definitely if you think you'll be an authority by just publishing X amount of blogs and Instagram posts.

CanuckHat said:

Have you any understanding of the online course market?

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Well, I'm running two (100% self made - no rehash BS) but hey, the one who is planning to steal and asking questions on forums knows it better right. I'm so sorry I doubt on you

The true bottom line is: Everyone gives you advice and you just don't want to hear it and think knows it better than the rest. That's fine, as long as you believe it, 'dude'.

3-6 months to get an autority?
I´m over 15 years in the Online Marketing game, journalist for over 5 years, working for the big 5 Online Marketing agencies in my country(in EU) as a freelancer, running more than 10 sucessfull online projects (apps, niche social networks, e-shops, websites, membership sites, crypto and much more), have more than 1k clients over the years and not calling me AUTHORITY.

I´m getting near to daily e-mails and calls why i´m not creating a video course or webinar and now i´m working over 1 year on my first digital product. If you want do all this with your real name, you have only one chance and you must provide the highest possible value with more content that you have to deliver with the time.

It´s not only about the content what you deliver, you have to be there for your clients every minute, provide high value and information what is not just copied from other video courses.

No offence but you sound like a 16y kid who never made any money and now try the "wannabe guru" way.
Give you more time, get really high educated, provide free information what is not to find on every MMO Blog, try to get really valuabel insider infos from the right people, build a coummunity wich is statisfied with your FREE informations for minimum 1 year and you will make more money for longterm.

sorry for my bad english

Mediawiz said:

In 3 to 6 months as an authority, good luck. Don't say it's impossible but a hard job. Definitely if you think you'll be an authority by just publishing X amount of blogs and Instagram posts.



Well, I'm running two (100% self made - no rehash BS) but hey, the one who is planning to steal and asking questions on forums knows it better right. I'm so sorry I doubt on you

The true bottom line is: Everyone gives you advice and you just don't want to hear it and think knows it better than the rest. That's fine, as long as you believe it, 'dude'.

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Okay, if you're so enlightened then at least tell me what it takes to be an authority or how long it takes? Seriously, instead of just insulting me like a jerk... you can help me, man.

I want to learn, but you haven't given ANY advice.. just insults. Bit sad to see that, especially as I see you as a mentor since you have 2 courses.

PS: Do you sell $47 eBooks or something? I don't say that to be rude, but you thought $497 for course was too high..

netcelal said:

3-6 months to get an autority?
I´m over 15 years in the Online Marketing game, journalist for over 5 years, working for the big 5 Online Marketing agencies in my country(in EU) as a freelancer, running more than 10 sucessfull online projects (apps, niche social networks, e-shops, websites, membership sites, crypto and much more), have more than 1k clients over the years and not calling me AUTHORITY.

I´m getting near to daily e-mails and calls why i´m not creating a video course or webinar and now i´m working over 1 year on my first digital product. If you want do all this with your real name, you have only one chance and you must provide the highest possible value with more content that you have to deliver with the time.

It´s not only about the content what you deliver, you have to be there for your clients every minute, provide high value and information what is not just copied from other video courses.

No offence but you sound like a 16y kid who never made any money and now try the "wannabe guru" way.
Give you more time, get really high educated, provide free information what is not to find on every MMO Blog, try to get really valuabel insider infos from the right people, build a coummunity wich is statisfied with your FREE informations for minimum 1 year and you will make more money for longterm.

sorry for my bad english

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Dude, if you've been in the game for 15 years with all that stuff... first off GOOD STUFF. BUT the reason you have ZERO authority is because you never bothered working on your Authority UNTIL NOW. I wonder how successful you would be if you built your authority for 15 years straight with creating a MEDIA BRAND (not a real name) that provided marketing information (Eg. Like DigitalMarketer.com , Founder.com, Entrepreneur.com , Addicted2Success.com , etc).

Just imagine if you created something like "MarketingToEuropa.com" for 15 years straight (And you could of simply re-hashed content from BuzzSumo articles to get big views fast and leverage off VIRALITY). Damn.. think of the COURSES you could sell and the PAID MEMBERSHIPS you could sell and the CONSULTING... its ENDLESS.

PM me if you need advice on building your Authority. As after 15 years, I wish you did this earlier with your credentials. You don't need to show your real name.. you can EASILY just create a Company Brand. And then say your real name later when the BRAND gets big. See what I mean buddy?

No offence, but you seem like a 40 year old man who wasn't innovative enough to build a big brand and rather relied on working for agencies and media companies. But its not too late. Just leverage what you've got... build a COMPANY BRAND to build authority, re-hash information to get there faster, and then say your name after with instant credibility.

Your English is fine.

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PS: EVERYONE! Do NOT under-estimate the POWER of Re-Hashing. Re-hash viral content in your niche via BuzzSumo: BOOM, traffic. Re-hash quality courses: BOOM, customer satisfaction. Re-hash sales funnels that are successful: BOOM, sales + leads en masse.

I am WARNING whoever is reading this to NOT under-estimate what RE-HASHING can do for you. It's not unethical or stealing, it's re-packaging like all information on the internet. IF I CAN change just ONE person's mindset on this, I am happy and they will be successful. I have nothing to gain but sharing free advice.

Everyone's argument to me is that I am a bad guy for re-hashing, but no one has said how it won't work? (PS: Im not a bad guy for re-hashing, because all content is re-hashed).

CanuckHat said:

Okay, if you're so enlightened then at least tell me what it takes to be an authority or how long it takes? Seriously, instead of just insulting me like a jerk... you can help me, man.

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You're the so-called guru here, why don't you teach us instead?

If you seriously don't understand that it takes more than six months to become an authority, then you have no business "teaching" IM in the first place. If you're asking us for help on getting your stolen-content course started, how can you possibly hope to answer specific technical questions from your students?

If you're going to do this, then get off the forum and start working. And in the meantime, work on growing a thicker skin, because your students WILL research your background, and they WILL find out that you have no accomplishments and stolen content. If you can't even keep a professional demeanor when responding to well-intentioned advice from people on this forum, how are you possibly going to handle the much harsher grilling you'll get from everyone else once you make yourself a semi-public figure?

Stavro said:

You're the so-called guru here, why don't you teach us instead?

If you seriously don't understand that it takes more than six months to become an authority, then you have no business "teaching" IM in the first place. If you're asking us for help on getting your stolen-content course started, how can you possibly hope to answer specific technical questions from your students?

If you're going to do this, then get off the forum and start working. And in the meantime, work on growing a thicker skin, because your students WILL research your background, and they WILL find out that you have no accomplishments and stolen content. If you can't even keep a professional demeanor when responding to well-intentioned advice from people on this forum, how are you possibly going to handle the much harsher grilling you'll get from everyone else once you make yourself a semi-public figure?

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DUDE. I said I'm building a MEDIA BRAND, not a personal brand. Therefore people will see me similar to DigitalMarketer.com or Founder.com or ClickFunnes.com or BlackHatWorld.com man! Or Google.com.

Launching my personal brand AFTER the media brand gets big. Thats the way to do it.

Also, I'm going to get 10K Social Followers and 2K email subscribers in 6 months bud. So no offence, but that's a pretty decent authority. The difference between my authority building and yours is that I will use viral marketing methods and rapid growth methods to grow my following. Not just post blogs and hope for the best

I'll answer technical specific questions by my students via learning the content myself. Duh.

CanuckHat said:

The difference between my authority building and yours is that I will use viral marketing methods and rapid growth methods to grow my following. Not just post blogs and hope for the best

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"Difference"? What do you know about the marketing efforts I use? What do you know about the projects I've worked on? Why do you think that my SEO strategy is to "just post blogs and hope for the best"?

If you really want help, here's my advice: Attacking others doesn't open doors, it burns bridges.

CanuckHat said:

Okay, if you're so enlightened then at least tell me what it takes to be an authority or how long it takes? Seriously, instead of just insulting me like a jerk... you can help me, man.

I want to learn, but you haven't given ANY advice.. just insults. Bit sad to see that, especially as I see you as a mentor since you have 2 courses.

PS: Do you sell $47 eBooks or something? I don't say that to be rude, but you thought $497 for course was too high..



Dude, if you've been in the game for 15 years with all that stuff... first off GOOD STUFF. BUT the reason you have ZERO authority is because you never bothered working on your Authority UNTIL NOW. I wonder how successful you would be if you built your authority for 15 years straight with creating a MEDIA BRAND (not a real name) that provided marketing information (Eg. Like DigitalMarketer.com , Founder.com, Entrepreneur.com , Addicted2Success.com , etc).

Just imagine if you created something like "MarketingToEuropa.com" for 15 years straight (And you could of simply re-hashed content from BuzzSumo articles to get big views fast and leverage off VIRALITY). Damn.. think of the COURSES you could sell and the PAID MEMBERSHIPS you could sell and the CONSULTING... its ENDLESS.

PM me if you need advice on building your Authority. As after 15 years, I wish you did this earlier with your credentials. You don't need to show your real name.. you can EASILY just create a Company Brand. And then say your real name later when the BRAND gets big. See what I mean buddy?

No offence, but you seem like a 40 year old man who wasn't innovative enough to build a big brand and rather relied on working for agencies and media companies. But its not too late. Just leverage what you've got... build a COMPANY BRAND to build authority, re-hash information to get there faster, and then say your name after with instant credibility.

Your English is fine.

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It´s not about if my autority is zero or strong and belive me it is really strong with a big community..what i mean is it´s about your QUALITY.

If you want to sell a course, webinar or coaching let´s say for MMO niche, you have to show YOUR OWN succesfull case studies, proof of income, some reputable online projects and most important you must have the real experince
what you can´t get from watching Product Launch Formula from Jeff Walker or other guys.

If you never or not enough done MMO by your self with going trough all the little problems that your have solved, you will never have the experince to teach it to your students. Even if you sell 100 or 1000 you will just stay a COPYCAT.


Let the 40 years old man give you a little advice for free, you can not say I am selling a video course for heart surgery and will later become a Doctor.

Give you some more time for your goals and ask you self you want to be a goood copycat or some one who provides real value. Your answer will show you your way for longterm.

netcelal said:

It´s not about if my autority is zero or strong and belive me it is really strong with a big community..what i mean is it´s about your QUALITY.

If you want to sell a course, webinar or coaching let´s say for MMO niche, you have to show YOUR OWN succesfull case studies, proof of income, some reputable online projects and most important you must have the real experince
what you can´t get from watching Product Launch Formula from Jeff Walker or other guys.

If you never or not enough done MMO by your self with going trough all the little problems that your have solved, you will never have the experince to teach it to your students. Even if you sell 100 or 1000 you will just stay a COPYCAT.


Let the 40 years old man give you a little advice for free, you can not say I am selling a video course for heart surgery and will later become a Doctor.

Give you some more time for your goals and ask you self you want to be a goood copycat or some one who provides real value. Your answer will show you your way for longterm.

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Are you serious?

"Even if I sell 100 or 1,000 I will just stay a copycat" = WHO GIVES A F*CK if it's paying for my mansions, lamborghinis, and vacations? Seriously, I don't care if Im a copy cat... IT BRINGS $ IN!

There's politicians that will press a button to kill millions of innocent people in exchange for $100M. And here you are giving me shit about re-hashing content to make $ online.

Dude for the LAST TIME, I'm going to get another authority to ENDORSE my ONLINE COURSES. Eg. If I launch an Instagram Marketing Online Course.. Im going to get a successful Instagram Marketer to endorse it and do a REVENUE share.

Therefore, I don't show my credentials. The authority shows theres and gets a revenue share. I am merely a PLATFORM for giving Authorities info products and using their authority to sell the sh*t out of it with my platform. They will accept the deal because: They get a info product (quality content) instantly, branded under their name (personal brand), revenue share (affiliate $), and I do a majority of the work (convenience).

DUDE! James Altucher and Tai Lopez id it with Cryptocurrency Trading Course. They brought successful crypto traders to the table who endorsed their online courses and they're killing it.

PS: Google Rocket Internet . They are a European company that COPIES American companies and they're a multi-billon dollar company. Im just doing the same for online courses and content.

CanuckHat said:

"Even if I sell 100 or 1,000 I will just stay a copycat" = WHO GIVES A F*CK if it's paying for my mansions, lamborghinis, and vacations?

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Haven't you ever noticed that there are dozens of gurus using the same set of pictures? Do you think they're just swapping mansions and using the prettiest of the group for their marketing materials? Or maybe they only made enough to buy one mansion between all of them, and they live in one big commune...