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Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by afallison, May 20, 2010.

  1. afallison

    afallison Regular Member

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    i have my hand in other ventures currently and i honestly don't know too much about seo.

    is there a such thing as too many meta tags? does that help in seo at all? if i loaded 50 keywords in the site's meta, would that do the same thing as 5?

    sorry for the noob like question but i'm trying to get a feel for what im up against. hehe.

    mods if this is the wrong section please delete or move. thanks.
     
  2. xplicit

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    As meta tags, are you meaning the number of keywords you should use?

    I wouldnt use no more than 10 but 5-7 is good enough really.
     
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    I try to keep the keywords to exactly what the page is about, sometimes as few as 3 words
     
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    ^ plus keywords used in title to be placed in order of importance and relevance kw1>kw2>etc
     
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    loading 50 keywords for meta, can raise the spam flag.
    less is more.

    i use a long tail keyword reflecting the page content, plus 2-3 other variants.
     
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    aaaah ok. that's the question i meant to ask. would it be flagged as spam. thanks for the responses!
     
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    There is a lot of debate about this topic, but the most accepted answer is between 150-160 characters. At the same time, I'm sure you've seen some "SEO Truths" proven wrong through this forum. If not, I'd suggest you take a look at the seo lab thread. As it turns out, meta keywords is ranked below the top 50 near html comments. Don't spend too much time fretting about it being absolutely positively perfect, move on and fix something else.
     
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    ^ Are you sure? I don't think so.
     
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    I never use them... and if i do, say my kw is "Massive Attack Music"

    I would use: massive attack music, massive attack, music.

    and that's all I would use. meta-keys is the very last thing on my mind as far as on-page seo.

    idk what the right way is. I seriously haven't messed with meta-key for 4-5 years, yet rank 1-7 always on my phrase.

    goog, yapoo, not sure bling bling...

    not saying it's dead,(but personally I do....lol)...just saying...other factors weigh-in more than that...don't stress on it.
     
  10. GreyWolf

    GreyWolf Executive VIP Jr. VIP

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    The meta title tag - This tag is very important for indexing.
    Google uses the title tag for indexing so you should include some of your keywords. Google also uses this tag for the title it displays in the SERP for your page, so you should make it something human friendly to attract visitors. Don't make it too spammy.

    The meta description tag - This tag is very important for getting your site niticed in the SERP.
    Google does not use the description tag for indexing. Google uses this tag for the excerpt it displays for your listing in the SERP. You should write the description with the human visitor in mind, this is your chance to get them to click on your link instead of one of the others in the SERP.

    The meta keyword tag - This tag is only important if your using adsense or similar program.
    Google does not use the keyword tag for indexing. It does use it for selecting relevant ads for adwords, so if you have an adsense site you need it. Otherwise the main use is for the very few SE that still look at it, and more importantly a place for you to keep track of the keywords your targetting for yourself. If you haven't looked at a site in awhile, its a good reminder of what you were doing with it.

    The meta keyword tag was an idea put forth many years ago, but only a few search engines used it. Google never made use the keyword tag for indexing.It became apparent almost immediately that webmasters couldn't be trusted to use it correctly. Keyword spamming in the tag was the immediate effect. Even the few SE that used it initially no longer use it.

    Having said that, there are many people that continue swearing by the meta keyword tag. Rather than debate the issue, I suggest you go ahead and use the tag. If they are right then it might help, if they are wrong (as most documentation and researches suggest) it still won't hurt to use it. If you do use it use it correctly, don't try keyword stuffing.

    Keywords ARE very important to SEO. Don't misunderstand me, keywords are probably the most important thing after backlinks. But it's their use throughout your page that makes them relevant. Proper use of the header tags (H1,H2,etc) are very important. Keeping a keyword density of about 1.5-2% in your content is important. Using keywords in the alt and title for your href and img tags is important.

    You can read these other threads to find additional suggestions and external references supporting these claims.

    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...73-stop-stressing-over-keywords-meta-tag.html

    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...ch-engine-optimization-practices-newbies.html
     
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