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Using emails as content source: can emails be copyrighted?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by paul65359, Jun 16, 2008.

  1. paul65359

    paul65359 Newbie

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    I was considering using emails as a source of content for blackhat sites.

    If someone sends me an email, do I have full legal rights to republish is as I choose?

    Does it make a difference if there is a disclaimer in the email? I noticed one person start adding a "copyright notice" to his email. Is this legitimate legal protection for him?

    Thanks for any advice.
     
  2. oldenstylehats

    oldenstylehats Elite Member Premium Member

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    The copyright notice is unnecessary.

    As of the 1980's, a copyright holder no longer has to announce their copyright. Publication, including email and web, is still one great way to essentially copyright your material for free. Back in the day when I was working with musicians, we used send ourselves copies of the backups of our ProTools sessions via registered mail and leave them unopened just in case something ever came up.
     
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    tonlilaz Executive VIP Premium Member

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    you can't use email as a source because essentially the email is date/time stamped proving the material wasn't yours in the first place.
     
  4. paul65359

    paul65359 Newbie

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    Thanks for your replies everyone. I guess I will have to rewrite/spin if if I want to publish it.

    Also, on an unrelated note, I tried to Thank these people, but the Thanks button didn't do anything...
     
  5. Uptownbulker

    Uptownbulker BANNED BANNED

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    As far as "copyright" and Blackhat go....

    ...well, they just don't!

    Sort of mutually exclusive, so here is a good guide to "copyright" in the world of Blackhat!:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNC-aj76zI4
     
  6. a0rta

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    Who cares? Sign up for a bunch of newsletters that only are posted through mail and not added online as well. Just copy them and use them. Who will ever notice and if anyone does... Do they know that they have the copyright, do they have the energy to go to court, do they really care to take you to court for posting of mail content online? One can always state that it was given away for free and that you only used the content after the original mailer had used it so you haven't taken any news value from him/her regarding that. Also.. Make a disclaimer somewhere on your site saying that you're not the copyright owner of the material and that you only make reviews of newsletters or what ever you are going to use. At least I wouldn't care and it's kind of smart to get content like this cause every RSS is already posted online and you will get duplicates while using mails/newsletters that haven't been posted online you will get pretty much original content in the search engines eyes and that for free and as much as you possible ever can have use for and probably even more. If I have sent out an mail I wouldn't search on the net for it afterwards.

    Still.. I did find a mail from me for some time ago where they had put up a wiki comparing my answer to another company where we are selling the similar services but to different prices. In my opinion that's all ok. It's a review of our services rather then copying our content and still it was out there with good keywords, product names etc etc. :)
     
  7. gifmore

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    :)

    Just thought I'd add this URL to this thread as a reference resource:

    hxxp://w3.copyright.g0v

    The material is based on copyright laws applicable to the U.S. (and yes, I realize that not every one is American here) but the information is real useful, especially for info and ebook marketers plus anyone dealing with intellectual property.

    Cheerio
     
  8. hotstox

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    May have better luck just scraping large forums that are relative to the keywords you are targeting & doing a rewrite. Just a suggestion - but if your blackhat I probably would not worry too much about the email idea. I mean who files copyright infringement on a publicized email...
     
  9. paul65359

    paul65359 Newbie

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    Yeah, thanks, that was sort of what I was thinking with the email lists/newsletters. That's where I noticed one guy was adding an explicit copyright notice.

    Hey Uptownbulker, I loved the Tom Lehrer video. I had forgotten all about him.

    I guess for pure black/grayhat sites, I would probably just rip content straight. For my pure white/grayhat sites, maybe rewrite it.
     
  10. Uptownbulker

    Uptownbulker BANNED BANNED

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    Yeah, I talked to him a few years back.

    He is like 80 now, I think.
     
  11. ghands

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    As far as I know, its all their copyright, and if you duplicate it then you are in for some serious trouble if you get course. I guess it depends on how you are recylcing it - if you actually attribute the material to them, then I think it is a lot less likely someone will kick off and report you for anyhting.