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Update time for embedded views?

Discussion in 'YouTube' started by Frankie4Fingers, Jun 20, 2012.

  1. Frankie4Fingers

    Frankie4Fingers Power Member

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    As title says, I was wondering if embedded views take time to update even before the 300 views mark as it happens for mobile views (as we all know you can just refresh the video page to get the counter increase before the 300 mark). I'm doing a little experiment and I'd like to know how much I have to wait to see if it works or not!
     
  2. aristide1997

    aristide1997 Newbie

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    Yeah but what is the point really?
     
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  3. KillerHeck

    KillerHeck Regular Member

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    Simple answer, yes it does!

    *aristide1997 answered first :)
     
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  4. Frankie4Fingers

    Frankie4Fingers Power Member

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    "I'm doing a little experiment and I'd like to know how much I have to wait to see if it works or not!" :)

    BTW, is YT able to detect IPs from embedded videos?
     
  5. 39ster

    39ster Junior Member

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    Embedded views don't send the "/get_video" request which updates the "fake" view counter. All views take time to update. There's two view counters. One is a fake/inaccurate one which is incremented by simply sending a request to "/get_video". Zero checks are done on this and it's incredibly easy to increment this. This counter means absolutely nothing and is only for display purposes (only the /watch page will increment this counter). The other view counter is the real view counter that updates every 10+ hours or so. When the fake view counter has hit 300 views, it freezes and can no longer be increment. When the real views counter has passed 300 views, the views displayed will switch from the fake view counter to the real one, and the fake view counter will no longer be used.

    tl;dr, the fake view counter (the one that updates instantly) means jack shit. Has absolutely no impact on SEO or video popularity/viral/etc.
     
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  6. Frankie4Fingers

    Frankie4Fingers Power Member

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    39ster, rep added for the great and detailed explanation.

    Do you have any insight on the IP limitations for embedded views (like views from 1 IP are counted xxx times per day)? Are they implemented in the retention rate counter?
     
  7. aristide1997

    aristide1997 Newbie

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    Embedded views depend on where they are seen if im not wrong like twitter etc.
     
  8. 39ster

    39ster Junior Member

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    I don't know about the IP's, but it does count audience retention. It's almost exactly the same as normal views from the /watch page. It uses the same flash player as the /watch page (the flash player is what sends out the pings to s.youtube.com)