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Unnatural inbound links

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by sclick, Mar 27, 2013.

  1. sclick

    sclick Junior Member

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    Hi ... I received a message from Google, "Unnatural inbound links," which I assume means these links should be or must be removed. The problem is how do I identify these links. Google intimidates, but doesn't indicate how I can id what it sees as questionable. I closely as possible scanned my 168,000+ links and could find nothing unusual. What am I obviously missing? Thanks. dgp
     
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    how old is your site?
     
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    well, if you engaged in a link building scheme, use your reporting to undo, by disavowing.

    I'm wondering if a tool exist that can map your backlinks to give you a visual view, unnatural links would then be easier to see
     
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    ... that's the million dollar question.

    168,000 links..... start with the blog comments and forum profiles, I'm assuming you got tons of those to make that number?
     
  5. sclick

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    Hi ... site is 7-years-old in July; I do not engage in link-building scheme; not a for-profit site; not sure how to id blog and forum profiles. I like the idea of a tool that could id the offending links, even if I had to delete manually. Would it do any good, do you think, to disavow to Google I'm not engaged in any "bad acts." I don't know, this is all so obviously the Wal-Mart strategy on line, run the small competitors out of busy and the residue naturally flows to the big box company, Google. How pain and disgusting. We shall perserve. Thanks. dgp
     
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    well, where if you don't mind me asking are those 160K+ links coming from then?
     
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    There are quite a number of type of links that Google targets these days for unnatural link warnings. Keep in mind you may have fallen victim of a negative seo campaign.

    I'd recommend using a link anlaysis tool like linkdetox or working with a link removal service like linkdelete.

    I had a website fall victim to a negative seo campaign and couldnt figure out what the problem was until I had someone look into it. After I received the warning I ignored it because like you I didnt know what the problem was or why i received it. That was a dumb idea since my rankings began to plummet after getting it.

    Id suggest starting sooner rather than later as it will cause a lot of headaches when the traffic starts to become a problem and you are scrambling to fix it.
     
  8. sclick

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    Hi ... I can account for about half the links, including several large directories. Still, the directories are PR3+, as of today, and I wonder about the problem. I'll contact linkdetox and see what I can do. Thanks for the great advice. dgp
     
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    Hi ... I used link detox and about 54% were toxic or suspicious. Yikes! I up-loaded the file of toxic and suspicious to Google Disavow. The "unnatural" message from Google indicated it was treading lightly on my website, this time. Hopefully, the Disavow list will satisfy it, at least for now. Interesting, the directories I thought problematic turned out okay. Thanks, again, for the great advice. dgp
     
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    Hi ... as a resolution, of sorts, to the above issues, this message was received, today: Dear site owner or webmaster of http://www.grubstreet.ca/,

    We received a request from a site owner to reconsider http://www.grubstreet.ca/ for compliance with Google's Webmaster Guidelines.

    Previously the webspam team had taken manual action on your site because we believed it violated our quality guidelines. After reviewing your reconsideration request, we have revoked this manual action. It may take some time before our indexing and ranking systems are updated to reflect the new status of your site.

    Of course, there may be other issues with your site that could affect its ranking without a manual action by the webspam team. Google's computers determine the order of our search results using a series of formulas known as algorithms. We make hundreds of changes to our search algorithms each year, and we employ more than 200 different signals when ranking pages. As our algorithms change and as the web (including your site) changes, some fluctuation in ranking can happen as we make updates to present the best results to our users. If your site continues to have trouble in our search results, please see this article for help with diagnosing the issue.

    Thank you for helping us to maintain the quality of our search results.

    Sincerely,

    Google Search Quality Team

    I'm somewhat astounded by the positive, almost apologetic, tone of the message. Google normally send threats.

    TNQ! dgp
     
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    wow your site must be pretty authority
    160k backlinks and you are not involved in
     
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    Is that all you did to get them to reply so quickly? I have been trying to recover from their unnatural link penalty for over a year now. Every time I asked for a reconsideration request, I always get turned down and it takes them weeks to respond. I have been trying to remove bad links the hard way by asking all those sites to remove my links. I am looking into link detox now. Please provide more information if you can. I have had the number one position for my keywords for several years until the Penguin hit last year. My site is a 10 year old authority ecommerce site. I think I was hit with negative SEO by my competitors.

     
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    Hi ... all I did was use linkdetox, once, at a cost of $40. I disavowed all the links that come up as toxic or suspect in a file sent to google, with my request for reinstatement. I acted in 5 days and willingly gave up 90,000 links. The warning had indicated the penalty was light. Between the warning and successful reconsideration, google sent a message that one item in content had soared in popularity, 488%, and I should consider posting more content like the one. The massive boost was to an old photograph of the second wife of Phil Collins; go figure.

    My site is 6.5+ years old. An average of 4 new articles, 600-750 words are added weekly; 12,000 to 15,000 indepth interviews publish about 6 times a year. There's no advertising, I rely on donations. I do my best to keep the optimized.

    When I started this site, I applied to google for on-site advertising. Google replied my site was not the type of site with which it wished to be associated. I never applied to carry google advertising again. I lost a small fortune when goolge bought CJ and other such sites, as all owed me commissions payable only via googe.

    BTW: despite whatever google did, my "links to site" increased to 172,600+.

    Thanks my story. Guess I got lucky. Someone at google took pity on me. dgp
     
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    CJ as in Commission Junction? Since when?
     
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    Try some analyzer like linkdetox.com for example.
     
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    You can identify the unnatural links by analyzing your link profile with a tool like Majestic SEO which allows to find sitewide links, anchor text distribution if its overoptimized or not, finding the bad 301 link, finding the poorest links, etc.

    After identifying the unnatural links, you can do a couple of things: remove the bad links; destroy the bad links; disavow (disavowing often takes some time since bots need to re-index the links you disavowed before your disavowals take into effect); and dilute the bad links by building more quality natural links.
     
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    Hi sclick and Initial Effort,

    Thank you for your replies. I'm actually using ahrefs now and looked into linkdetox. With my last reconsideration request, I've already disavowed all of the de-indexed sites. Now, after looking at some of my toxic links from linkdetox and ahrefs, there were several "bad neighborhood sites" linking to me. There were several polish sites with malware, links from viagra sites and sites that had hidden links until I looked at the source code. Yep, I think someone's attacking me. I'm disavowing those too and will look at my links closely. Thanks for all your help.
     
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    Hi ... yes, CJ as in Commission Junction. Two or three years ago CJ started paying through Google. I had no Google account. I lost accumulated commissions. Hope this helps. dgp
     
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    I have been paid from CJ, in the form of a check. I didn't inspect the check but as far as I know it didn't come from google.
     
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    Hi Pilfer7 ... roughly three years ago, CJ indicated all future payments via google. I was owned a fair bit and received not a penny. I had received cheques, from CJ, prior to that point. Went to donations; obviously, I always get the money and, over the year, cover all web site operating expenses. What can I say. Thanks. dgp