Unbannable IPs

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I'm a newbie to blackhat concepts but I think one reason why proxies are used is to have another IP address that could be used and if it gets banned by a site, oh well, just go get another proxy. I was thinking about having proxies for FB user accounts and I thought it'd sure be nice to have an unbannable IP address. I know that if you use a mail server like yahoo to spam other mail servers, the other mail server won't ban yahoo's IP address so you can just continually create new yahoo accounts if you want when your address gets banned (Either by yahoo or the other mail server), but if you host your own server with its own IP address to send out spam, your IP address is probably going to get quickly blacklisted.

What are some unbannable IP addresses?

I thought places where there are a TON of facebook users would probably not get blacklisted, like microsoft's IP or libraries, so if you had access to those networks, your IP would never get banned. Of course, delete cookies and all that...

Is my thinking sound or am I imagining things (again)? :p:D

If this is true, what are some unbannable IPs (Like networks that would never get banned)?
 
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To my knowledge blacklisting has not so much to do with where you are but how much of a nuisance you are.

There are no unbannable IP's.

Also, the other server doesn't need to blacklist you, Yahoo will do it for them.
Also, ever tried to use a new account on Yahoo and send out 50 emails within an hour?

No offense intended, but I think you should study this a bit more. :)
 
Amsterdammer said:
To my knowledge blacklisting has not so much to do with where you are but how much of a nuisance you are.

There are no unbannable IP's.

Also, the other server doesn't need to blacklist you, Yahoo will do it for them.
Also, ever tried to use a new account on Yahoo and send out 50 emails within an hour?

No offense intended, but I think you should study this a bit more. :)
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Hehe. I'm not really 'studying' email spamming as I'm not intending to get into it, but I'm aware of some of the underlying concepts. But, I'll keep that tidbit of knowledge in mind if I get into it. ;)

Can you imagine being on a microsoft network where there are hundreds of coworkers using facebook and you started spamming facebook? Sure, you'd be a nuisance, but to ban you, they'd have to ban the entire microsoft network you're using along with hundreds of other users as facebook only sees the microsoft network's IP. So not entirely unbannable, but you'd have to be a really big nuisance for them to block an important IP like that.
 
Truth is you can never get access to microsoft ip's, or library ip's.They are not for sale or rent
 
There is not any authority IP metrics, when it comes to any use of an IP.

On my websites, i'll even ban the CIA if they do nasty things.
 
unbannable ip lol
i have been into email marketing quite some time
its just bullshit
 
androiddreams said:
Hehe. I'm not really 'studying' email spamming as I'm not intending to get into it, but I'm aware of some of the underlying concepts. But, I'll keep that tidbit of knowledge in mind if I get into it. ;)

Can you imagine being on a microsoft network where there are hundreds of coworkers using facebook and you started spamming facebook? Sure, you'd be a nuisance, but to ban you, they'd have to ban the entire microsoft network you're using along with hundreds of other users as facebook only sees the microsoft network's IP. So not entirely unbannable, but you'd have to be a really big nuisance for them to block an important IP like that.
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The first thing that would happen is that the network admins on the microsoft network would shut you off and then you'd probably get fired. I have never worked for M$, but I'm fairly confident that their Internet usage policy for employees contains plenty of language about not using company resources to spam.

Really, file this theory under "really bad ideas to try."
 
I am not that sure about yahoo. For hotmail I know for a fact that your IP is in the header of the emails sent. So even if you dont get banned (whcih I think you will), your inboxing chances if you go wild spamming are slim to none.
 
all ips and proxies are bannable. only way around it is to use new/different proxies. thats why people are always looking for new ones.
 
IPs don't get banned. Instead, they get put into a black list that is shared by various services such as Spamhaus for tracking spam. One such list is the RBL (Realtime Blackhole List), which is a lists of IP addresses whose owners refuse, on principal or because of laziness or incompetence, refuse to block spam and allow its proliferation across the Internet. Participate in the service, whether it be paid or for free such as Akismet, and you get access to the list.

So bottom line I suggest grasshopper that you study some more.
 
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androiddreams said:
Hehe. I'm not really 'studying' email spamming as I'm not intending to get into it, but I'm aware of some of the underlying concepts. But, I'll keep that tidbit of knowledge in mind if I get into it. ;)

Can you imagine being on a microsoft network where there are hundreds of coworkers using facebook and you started spamming facebook? Sure, you'd be a nuisance, but to ban you, they'd have to ban the entire microsoft network you're using along with hundreds of other users as facebook only sees the microsoft network's IP. So not entirely unbannable, but you'd have to be a really big nuisance for them to block an important IP like that.
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They sure wont block the entire microsoft IP range. Usually only a class c /24 net range will be blocked from where the source IP of the abuse.

Thats the reason why you see private proxy providers stressing on subnets.

Microsoft may own a large net range such as /8 which consists of 1000s of /24s. Blocking a whole /8 is like blocking AT&T users which no one would do.

The chances are less for facebook to block a whole large net range such as /8 which means the whole micr network will be banned. This is very very rare.
 
Even if let's say you manage to somehow use facebook through a proxy installed on a computer in Microsoft's network, what do you think will happen once you start acting abusive on facebook? Don't you think Microsoft's admins will go and investigate once they start receiving abuse mails?
 
Lol at unbannable IP's... That's like asking for an uncrashable car :p
 
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