Ultimate Demon Web 2.0 Profiles. Is this bad advice?

SeanAustin · Aug 5, 2013

Hey BHW,

I read on demondemon that it's best to create strong web 2.0 profiles with several articles of content without links before linking to the money site. This makes sense, and Scritty advocates that it would be fine to use one article to post to every web 2.0 profile as long as you posted it before it would get indexed (so that it doesn't appear as dup content to the webmasters, and therefore doesn't get deleted).

So lets say you send out the same article to 100 different profiles, google indexes all 100 profiles within a few days of each other, understands that these profiles are most likely somehow linked together in some way due to the 100% duplicate content, then sees these profiles all link to the same money site over the next few weeks... Isn't this screaming self-promotion directly in the ears of Google?

To me, this seems like bad advice on Scritty's behalf, but then again, maybe I am just being naive.

Your feedback is very much appreciated as I would love to hear another experts opinion on this.

manipura · Aug 6, 2013

I think you might have misunderstood what he's saying, you should use unique articles for each 2.0. You can use UD to do this by keeping all your content in text format in a folder and choosing the setting to post from that location.

SeanAustin · Aug 6, 2013

No, I don't think I'm misunderstood. This is straight from his site.

What isn't so important however is that you send a 100% unique article to every profile. One article or post will do as long as you are creating the profiles at roughly the same time. It takes Google a few days to index new pieces of work, and for the whole of this time your article will seem unique to every site that you send it to. This initial article would ideally be handwritten or bought from a reputable authoring site such as Iwriter.

He's saying here that its alright to use the same article for multiple profiles as long as you create them at roughly the same time. This makes sense because it quickly builds trust with the webmasters if your first uploaded articles aren't ones that are link spamming (which ensures your later uploaded spun content will have a less chance of being deleted), but I still think that this would be a huge footprint for google if all the web 2.0's had identical articles at one time or another.

I hope scritty can chime in on this.

Scritty · Aug 6, 2013

He's right. Duplicate content doesn't matter YOU HAVE NO LINK IN IT.
It's just duplicate content that could have been put there by you, the butcher, the baker or the candlestick maker. Until content has a self serving link in it, it means nothing - it has no effect on your target site. How could it? Seriously How could it? Are Google psychic? Do they know a post was created specifically to link to your site and not to the billions of others that exist? Of course they don't. With no link pointing to your site that's the end of the trail.
This first post is for the benefit of your account (or profile) surviving the deletion and Panda swoops that the actual WEB2.0 site owners perform on new accounts. Looking for spam and mostly looking for crappy links with banned keywords to poor quality sites.

This is to get around that. It has nothing to do with getting you a link or Google ranks.

What we know Google deoesn't do is look at sub domains on WEB2.0 sites in "macro" form. You create accounts at livejournal, tumbler, wordpress.com etc - then send the same unique piece to all of them, they all get accepted - great. Your account with them is on the up.

The first piece of conent I put up in my method is just to get my profiles (accounts) settled and approved. No self serving link.

Your first battle with WEB2.0 profiles (and WIKI and Article profiles on decent authority sites) ISN'T with Google - it's with the site owners who do not want crappy content full of affiliate links. THEY are the ones who delete, ban,remove most of the crap that's posted... NOT Google.

Once your profile is settled then you can post unique spun stuff to them (still no need to make it unreadable though - particularly not the first tier)
These subsequent submissions will be on NEW URL's i.e

mynewblog.wordpress.com/establishing-post
mynewblog.wordpress.com/post-with-a-link-in

And Google DOES NOT cross reference those two unless you (stupidly) interlink them. Google is a URL by URL crawl and rank process that only under special circumstances puts the URL's together for a domain or subdomain based macro analysis (usually only for the purposes of PR accrual).

The method works - it's the method I use and once a WEB2 or WIKI or article profile is up - i get a fantastic retention rate (over 85% after 6 months - 70%+ plus in the 3 years since I started) and Google loves the URL's with links on that follow subsequently.

The first post has to be good - and it needs posting quick to all sites. Never once got a "dupe" notice in the hundreds (maybe thousands) of times I've done this.

Scritty

Adam718 · Aug 6, 2013

Scritty said:
He's right. Duplicate content doesn't matter YOU HAVE NO LINK IN IT.
It's just duplicate content that could have been put there by you, the butcher, the baker or the candlestick maker. Until content has a self serving link in it, it means nothing - it has no effect on your target site. How could it? Seriously How could it? Are Google psychic? Do they know a post was created specifically to link to your site and not to the billions of others that exist? Of course they don't. With no link pointing to your site that's the end of the trail.
This first post is for the benefit of your account (or profile) surviving the deletion and Panda swoops that the actual WEB2.0 site owners perform on new accounts. Looking for spam and mostly looking for crappy links with banned keywords to poor quality sites.

This is to get around that. It has nothing to do with getting you a link or Google ranks.

What we know Google deoesn't do is look at sub domains on WEB2.0 sites in "macro" form. You create accounts at livejournal, tumbler, wordpress.com etc - then send the same unique piece to all of them, they all get accepted - great. Your account with them is on the up.

The first piece of conent I put up in my method is just to get my profiles (accounts) settled and approved. No self serving link.

Your first battle with WEB2.0 profiles (and WIKI and Article profiles on decent authority sites) ISN'T with Google - it's with the site owners who do not want crappy content full of affiliate links. THEY are the ones who delete, ban,remove most of the crap that's posted... NOT Google.

Once your profile is settled then you can post unique spun stuff to them (still no need to make it unreadable though - particularly not the first tier)
These subsequent submissions will be on NEW URL's i.e

mynewblog.wordpress.com/establishing-post
mynewblog.wordpress.com/post-with-a-link-in

And Google DOES NOT cross reference those two unless you (stupidly) interlink them. Google is a URL by URL crawl and rank process that only under special circumstances puts the URL's together for a domain or subdomain based macro analysis (usually only for the purposes of PR accrual).

The method works - it's the method I use and once a WEB2 or WIKI or article profile is up - i get a fantastic retention rate (over 85% after 6 months - 70%+ plus in the 3 years since I started) and Google loves the URL's with links on that follow subsequently.

The first post has to be good - and it needs posting quick to all sites. Never once got a "dupe" notice in the hundreds (maybe thousands) of times I've done this.

Scritty

Just learned something new. Thanks, pal.

SeanAustin · Aug 6, 2013

These subsequent submissions will be on NEW URL's i.e

mynewblog.wordpress.com/establishing-post
mynewblog.wordpress.com/post-with-a-link-in

And Google DOES NOT cross reference those two unless you (stupidly) interlink them. Google is a URL by URL crawl and rank process that only under special circumstances puts the URL's together for a domain or subdomain based macro analysis (usually only for the purposes ofPR accrual).

This answers my question perfectly. Thank you Scritty for you knowledge and expertise. It is literally priceless.

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