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Ultimate Demon vs Senuke XCr?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO Tools' started by newyorkcity, Sep 27, 2012.

  1. newyorkcity

    newyorkcity Registered Member

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    I was set on getting Ultimate Demon, but not sure now Senuke XCr released.. Can anyone offer any info on any of these?
     
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    clyde Elite Member

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    XCr is 10x more expensive than UD so it really depends on your budget and what you really need.
     
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  3. shaggy93

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    I've been using the XCR trail , All i can say its really amazing tool. Success rate has been improved a lot now.

    UD sucks i had subscription and cancelled. All the web2.0 you use in the UD are no follow, the real powerful thing is do-follow
     
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    You do realize that do-follow and no-follow are basically only good for link-juice and passing on PR, right? It really has no bearing on traffic or link counts? So do you really take the basis of how powerful or effective a tool is based on whether it links out to no-follow or do-follow sites?

    Before you say a tool sucks, provide an indepth analysis please of how it didn't perform based on what it says on the tin. Because the "real powerful thing" isn't the ability of a tool to backlink to a certain platform or kind of site, but whether it gives you the ability to rank on the almighty SERP.
     
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    uhhhh. Its an SEO tool. D0Follow > NoFollow for seo purposes. What am I missing here?
     
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    I agree, also no-follow links are important as well as do-follow links as the combination looks more natural to Google!
     
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  7. shaggy93

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    Well, let me tell you something, import 2000 elgg links list, and see how much successful you can get. Barely 300-400 live links right.

    UD is slow and takes longer time as compared to the Senuke XCR.

    Does UD got web2.0 profiles? NO!

    UD Forum profiles results ? Barley 50% less success than the Senuke XCR!
     
  8. directaxcess

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    You're not missing anything :p in terms of SEO, ******** > NoFollow no doubt as it passes link juice which ultimately helps raise your SERP's (deny it as much as you want). That does not mean that you should build only ******** links :p

    @OP, it really depends on your preference. I've heard good things about both pieces of software but I've never used UD -- only used SenukeXCR and it seems to work very nicely. It all depends how you use the tool ... hell I'd rate Magic Submitter, UD and SenukeXCR exactly the same in terms of usability. Senuke is expensive as hell though, and UD is a one time buy so its up to you :)
     
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    I heard bad reviews about senuke as well so it would more useful to have an analytical review about a tool before coming to a conclusion like this. cheers.
     
  10. cody41

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    And that was simply my point. But to shaggy's point, he did post up after the fact a more quantitative explanation of what he experienced. I'm just someone who is opposed to a blanket statement death sentences of a tool when someone says "xyz sucks" because it didn't work for them.
     
  11. Marc_L

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    Well, I wrote a long comparison but the forum blocked it from posting.

    Long story short. Senuke runs worse (buggy) than UD but with the new senuke you can create better links because of the script editor.
     
  12. shaggy93

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    OK!
    I would be doing the case study this week with Senuke XCR as well as with the ultimate demon!
     
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    newyorkcity Registered Member

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    How is it buggy? and how are the links better?
     
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    newyorkcity Registered Member

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    I would be very interested in this case study! let me know what you find please
     
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    For those that use Senuke, what is the reason you pay for that tool over the others?

    If I choose to go with Senuke, is BHSVPS.com a good VPS? because I will also need a VPS
     
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    That's complete bollocks - Only one of the provided WEB2.0's are nofollow, the rest are all d0follow

    Not sure whether you are lying or just mistaken - but you are certainly WRONG

    Here is a partial list (just the PR4 or higher) ALL D0FOLLOW! all high PR

    Wordpress PR 9 Do
    Tumblr PR8 Do
    Opera PR8 Do
    Bravenet PR7 No
    Newsvine PR7 - Do
    Springnote PR6 - Do
    Dailystrength PR6 -Do
    Netlog PR6 -Do
    Soup PR6 -Do
    Thoughts PR6 -Do
    Blog PR6 -Do
    Blog.dot co dot uk PR6 -Do
    Blogtext PR5 Do
    Blogster PR4 Do
    Sweetcircles PR4 Do

    So you've resubscribed to Ultimimate Demon then? Or are you going to base your study on a hacked version?

    Already underway as it happens - huge case study underway on demondemon dot com.
     
  17. raghav

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    I have lifetime license to both of the tools and I use both previously, but now I'm using only senuke since it does everything that UD does and much more. senuke is 10 times or more faster than UD and so the price. If you have less number of sites say less than five (which are not authority sites or does not require a lot of powerful backlinks) then go with UD. UD is a great tool and far better than many others here but not great than SENUKE.


    If you have to do a lot of link building and have limitted time then go with Senuke, but keep in mind that you have to spend too many $$$$ for Senuke, think whether you can get back your ROI or not and then invest. Ultimately your link building strategy is going to win and tool will only help you in implementing your strategy, senuke does things much faster than UD and does more things than UD. But UD is also a great tool which can do a lot of things.
     
  18. thewhat

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    The thing about UD is that you can scrape sites and add them according to your niche. The sites that come with the program are just for starters. Scraping sites and adding them and building your site list is a great feature in UD.
     
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    agreed
     
  20. Danny1111

    Danny1111 Elite Member

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    I think this is really simple

    SeNuke = $147 a month UD $300 one time and $150 every couple of years on major updates.

    With SeNuke your getting something that should be alot more powerful than UD - but until this last update to me UD was the better product.

    Now your back to going with the more powerful software paying a premium price or something that works but perhaps less powerful until new updates come along.

    I am happy with UD - it makes me money and am happy to play with Ubot for other stuff I need.

    All the best.