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Ugly truth about most PBN services online

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by SitraM, Mar 3, 2016.

  1. SitraM

    SitraM Junior Member

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    Hello everyone,
    first of all, I wanted to apologise for my broken English, it is only 3rd language that I learnt... So please do not judge me because of that!
    Then if this post is going to be wrong, just let me know, I will remove it with no problems. BUT.. I hope many of You- new IMers will see this...

    I just wanted to explain you the "Ugly truth about most PBN services online..." and why I will never order it again! I will just build my own PBN for "spammy" niches and a different pbn for citation boosts(because I used network services just for these 2 reasons)

    Well most of offered PBNs are great just on the paper, or on BSTs... And I am pretty sure sometimes admins are getting different kind of backlinks, that is why those sellers are getting positive reviews and their BSTs are being approved... I will not link this thread to any seller(I have ordered similar services from like ~10 sellers and just 1 of them was good, but I suspect that he removed the backlinks 2 months later to keep the quality of the PBN), but IF you decide to order any related services, do a proper analysis afterwards and save those reports for months and if something goes wrong, reveal it to others, people like me! But on the other hand, what's the point? 0 of the sellers are offering refunds, which is absolute BS.

    What did I see on those reports?
    1. Spammed domains which can hurt the MS;
    2. Absolutely ridiculous TF and massive CF;
    3. LOTS OF OBL (domain with TF of 10 and DA 15 will help few money sites, but now imagine, all this link juice is being spread through 30 money sites? It loses the value!);
    4. Sellers are promising permanent homepage posts, but after a month or two they are being pushed to the 2nd page. (Why that is important? Because ~95% of all link juice is on the homepage and when you are being dropped to the 2nd page, that backlink becomes useless);
    5. Most of those PBN domains look really spammy, there is really small chance that it can pass a google manual verifications... So the chance of Penguin penalty for your money sites grows up(think about buffer sites, citations)!;
    6. Ok, I agree that there some good sellers, BUT most of the times those sellers are sending just partial reports... 2 months later I see lots of backlinks being removed... And We CAN NOT BLAME THEM, because we do not see what they provided... But we still pay the money and pretend to be happy... That service costs too much to be bad! Those were my thoughts... And keep in mind that plugins that block crawlers are bullcrap too! Do not fall for that! Not many serious IMers will use them on their own PBN because it will put a trigger on it. What do I mean? Who uses those plugins? Only BLOG NETWORKS and if I know it, do you think google dont? I can charge you 500$ for 50 domains, make a crappy pbn of 20 domains, link them to your money sites and tell you that 30 other domains will not appear to majestic and arefs because crawlers are blocked... just LOL;
    7. I have met this guy on a skype group and he told me that he uses GSA to "boost" his purchased pbn links and I asked how much do you boost them?, he answers- few million backlinks on each site... LOL... Imagine your Money Site is on the same network! Imagine what google thinks about your site? How many people "boosts" their PBNs?
    8. Yesterday I got another report... Seller promised all the backlinks to be of minimum 10 TF.. I received the reports and all the posts weren't on the homepage and all of them had 0 TF. Really?

    Oh remembered the 9th point: What kind of business is that $1.99 per a blog post? Article would cost more then that + who wants to trash their PBN and get no profit?

    I promise that there lots of sellers with really nice BSTs that provide absolutely 0 VALUE. And I know WE can not blame anyone just ourselves, because WE are quite lazy to build couple extra lower quality PBNs and keep the control of everything...
    I just wanted to share my experiences with you guys, especially with NEW IMERS, who do not understand everything!
    Be careful and share your experiences!
     
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  2. naskootbg

    naskootbg Power Member

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    Thanks, but how we can understand wich PBN is ugily? The price maybe?
     
  3. cyrus451

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    I second this. I own a few niche sites and most if not ALL of the bst threads here have brought me nothing but 100 bucks down the drain and disappointment. if you want seo done right you have to do it yourself plain and simple.
     
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  5. SitraM

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    You Will Never know that :( I Guess you need to find reliable seller first...

    I have never saved those reports, just trusted those sellers... that was my mistake. But there is the new report that I am going to rape until I will get the value or a refund. Once I will receive a full report, I will update you guys!
    Create a thread about how to create a pbn?
    Really? can you just google that?
     
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    renzuken Junior Member

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    theres a thread about a PBN here at BHW..

    if the PBN service provide report you should avoid it,
    and for price

    example
    100$ for 500 post for example is just another shity links with almost no link juice
    use it on tier 1 only or 2

    PBN providers sells for 150$ for 15 post or 300$ for 50 post and if they dont provide reports
    you can atleast put them in your money site, i know some BST here which is really gives results

    again sellers who sell PBN is a PUBLIC BLOG NETWORK

    real PRIVATE is only created by you and only used by you
     
  7. transitarea

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    I have read many complaints about this and you did well by explaining it in details.
     
  8. TayaX

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    I've spent about $600 for a money site in diverse PBN service from BHW.

    result: I had to disavow links in GWT because my site dropped and got some penalty on some keywords or pages.

    Im investing $1000 in my own PBN. Thats the only way things will work on the long term IMH
     
  9. LordCameltoe

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    It's the same old story OVER and OVER again.

    If anyone actually thinks you can rank by buying cheap links to your money site in a niche that is even remotely competitive, you are DREAMING. If things were that simple we would all be millionaires.

    Blog Networks all got banned by google a few years ago. PBN's are the same thing, google will catch on and ban them. You're only chance of pulling ahead is to build them yourself or find a VERY trusted person to build them for you.

    The only use I could find for BST PBN links would be to index + boost my web 2.0, social properties or satelitte sites. Never, ever would I send them to my money sites.
     
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  10. glissherald

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    Everyone knows public pbns are not as powerful as privately owned ones, however that does not mean they are totally useless as they have their places within your link building structure. You could for instance use them to boost your own small set of domains or web2.0s.
     
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    The sad reality is if you look for a cheap PBN service, you get what you pay for.

    That's the bottom line.

    While you can get tremendous value with other types of services, when it comes to PBNs, they have all the incentives in

    the world to cut corners.

    I mean, let's face it, building a solid PBN that has quality backlink footprint and has no spam indicators not

    only takes time but also can cost quite a bit of money.

    Do you think these people would rent out their network for cents on the dollar?

    I don't think so.

    So you might want to think twice.

    Personally speaking, you might want to stop looking at PBN as a backlink option.

    There are other ways to earn backlinks that stay several steps ahead of Google.