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Twitter's Getting Nasty (Start Using Proxies!)

Discussion in 'Social Networking Sites' started by thefish2010, Oct 4, 2009.

  1. thefish2010

    thefish2010 BANNED BANNED

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    Just to give you all a heads up, Twitter is getting pretty good at linking accounts together. You should all start using proxies when using automated tools from multiple accounts over a short period of time - this applies to automated follow/unfollow, tweets, etc. They're banning first and asking questions later.

    It looks to me like they're basically looking at the number of accounts that are accessed/updated from a single IP address over short periods. Even if you access through the API, this appears to still be an issue. The banning appears to be fully automated, as yesterday alone I lost over 1,000 accounts WHILE I was doing an automated batch of follows. Also, it's now official that your account needs to be "aged" for your tweets to show up in search results. Basically, for your first week post just a few, non-spam tweets. It's important to post some tweets, or you won't show up in search results regardless of how old your account is. After a week with a couple of "headed to the store" type tweets, you're all good.

    This banning has caused me more than a few headaches this week. I'm going to have a mass funeral for all the accounts that died. But it inspired me to get creative and I'm mounting a comeback the likes of which they haven't seen before :).

    The cleanup also provides an opportunity, because it kicked off a metric ton of spammers who won't be able to adapt - less competition :D.
     
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  2. blackma

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    Ya I have noticed this too. And they seem very reluctant to budge when they have banned accounts too. I sent them a nice email playing dumb and they didn't entertain it.

    They are only jealous that people are making money from their site, seeing that they don't even have a decent monetisation programme in place, themselves.

    Fuck Evan Williams anyhow! Had enough of his shit!! :)
     
  3. TippiE

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    Some of my accounts were banned because of this.
    I guess they are finally cleaning up.
     
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    I recently used friendadder and I hadn't used it in about 3 weeks, I did a small search to ad friends and I was lucky to ad 700 if that, I went to my account the next day to see how many I am following and vice versa only to find out to my surprise that it did not ad any. I have used this program before and I know it works and it's not the program I suspect it to be twitter. Anyone else had encountered this?
     
  5. SpazzyMcSpazz

    SpazzyMcSpazz Regular Member

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    you also shouldn't be using the same urls in profiles and such
     
  6. Yukinari84

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    Anytime you are creating multiple accounts on a site or service and/or using software to automate this process, you should always use a proxy.

    If you cannot afford to or don't have the means to do it all the time, at least make sure you take as much precaution as you can for your money pages.

    This way the accounts that do get locked/banned will just be the throwaway ones and won't have any real effect on your business.

    It's always better to be safe than sorry.
     
  7. kanshu

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    Hmm. I better check if any of my twitter accounts got killed in the slaughter.
     
  8. kanshu

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    No casualties yet.
     
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    jronicus Newbie

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    Some of my accounts got banned while I was testing a new tool but foolishly did not use proxies. Is this something new that you are noticing, because this happened to me a few weeks ago and I had less than 20 accounts that I was using from the same IP.
     
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    i usually use same email to signup with many username , hehe
     
  11. justone

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    I smell business ;)

    If you need high quality US proxies -> check out my sale thread here for www.seo-proxies.com

    The general rule when using proxies is: one proxy for one account, only private proxies for valued accounts
     
  12. thefish2010

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    It's not totally new, but the fact that they've automated the banning is new. I'm now moving away from the API and simulating web browser interaction instead, and doing it all through proxies. Basically the software I finished last night is like running 100 copies of Hummingbird simultaneously, except it's totally on autopilot once I enter the accounts to use, a list of proxies, the accounts whose followers I want to follow, and targeting options.

    An added benefit is that I can target much more precisely and easily, since the info on the follower lists available through the web interface contain a lot of information about 20 followers at a time all in one place. Through the API you would have to make separate call to get the same info about each follower, so it reduces the number of requests I have to make to Twitter for targeting purposes to 1/20th of what it used to be. Thanks Twitter! :D
     
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    Hmm. How is this going to effect services like onlywire? I would imagine that all the tweets are coming from the same IP. I would think it has to be more of a ban on posting to many tweets within a certain time period then based purely on IP address.
     
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    Yes,My 500+ account suspend with it
     
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    Haha I lost 200k accounts over the last week of twitter updates. It was a big kick in the dick but now everyone is rebuilding so its perfect time to start turning up the heat and rebuild. There is gains and loss with everything you just have to play smarter ball.
     
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    thefish2010 BANNED BANNED

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    My success rate in creating new accounts has gone WAY down...yesterday out of 2,000 created less than 250 were still alive after 24 hrs. Ugg...For the last couple months I was able to make 5,000+ accounts per day for $10 (my decaptcher cost) and average over $1/mo income per account on total autopilot. I was going to buy a new Mercedes SL 600. Ahh, memories.

    Now accounts live for 24 hours and I make about 1/10 per account per day that I used to. I'll probably be stuck with a Mercedes SLK :(.
     
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    I'm not knocking you, and I wish you continued success, but try it with 150,000 accounts instead of 15. You might have a different experience. They're rapidly tying accounts with similar characteristics together. I think they might even have a bot following about me URLs and URLs posted in Tweets, looking at their ultimate destination, and tying/deleting accounts together that way.
     
  18. nowimhere

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    I am really glad I came across this thread!

    I stopped using twitter for spam. It seems everyone is using it for spam,
    so in my opinion the quality of traffic is quite low now.

    People are not dumb. For example, I think a lot of people figured out that the
    Direct Messaging in twitter is useless now, considering if you were to try to
    DM someone. There's a fat chance that they will actually get the message, being their message inbox is overflowing with spam!
    Like "Hello, thanks for following me, if you want to make 10 k a month...." Sigh

    Twitter used to have a lot of potential. And it still kind of does, there will always be dumb people who dont know shit about anything, and thus click your links and maybe even buy your products. But I'd say the good old days of easy money on twitter are over.
    Which really sucks considering I bought twitterline for 100 smackers.

    Oh well.
    NEXT METHOD PLEASE!

    Cheers.
     
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  19. KingStone

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    twitter's ban hammer just got larger =)
     
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    I manage 15 accounts with hootesuite.com and have never had a single issue...I can feed multiple RSS feeds into hootesuite and tell it to send updates to my twitter accounts so it looks like they are tweeting all day....