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Twitter - Suspension/Bann & Your Experiences

Discussion in 'Social Networking Sites' started by blackheader, Apr 23, 2010.

  1. blackheader

    blackheader Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Hey I had the idea that it could be usefull to share our experiences in getting suspended on twitter. Everyone whose account got suspended could post here which techniques he applied, etc. Could be helpul in saving our accounts in the future and testing out the real limits (but I also think they could vary from account to account) to work efficient and without getting banned from now on.

    So you could post the amounts of people you have:

    A) FOLLOWED
    B) UNFOLLOWED ([everyday], or after waiting [x] days)
    C) API used? - [ ] Yes or [ ] No
    D) Type of API / Settings
    E) When did you get banned? after [x] days, or within [x] hours
    F) Age of the account
    G) Proxies used? [ ] Yes or [ ] No

    per day. If we write it down we could learn from eachother and avoid bannings.
     
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  2. blackheader

    blackheader Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    A) FOLLOWED: 900
    B) UNFOLLOWED (None)
    C) API used? - [X] Yes
    D) Type of API / Settings I´ve forgotten the name ... since it was in 2009. But it was an site where I could add 50 people per page.
    E) When did you get suspended? --> within 3 hours (quite obvious, but I was a noob to twitter ;-)
    F) Age of the account new
    G) Proxies used? [X] No
     
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  3. muchacho

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    Nicely started ... and I hope I never have to fill in my experience of being banned haha.

    One thing to note - you followed 900 all at once, and that seems a little excessive, seens how the figure that's recommended is around 350.

    What I'd advise is to gradually up the amount each day until you reach a ban. Also bear in mind the time delay, as what I found is that if I did them too quickly, Tweet Adder was telling me that I was following more people than I actually was... in other words, perhaps some were being ignored as it was too quick. So I changed it from 0-5 seconds > 1-6 seconds and it seems to have sorted that. Of course, it may have been down to the Proxy I was using at the time.
     
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    blackheader Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    thanks for your reply! As I´ve said I was a TOTAL newbee to Twitter, and didn´t even know that you could get banned for massively following people (I have learned a lot meanwhile.). I just wanted to get results.
     
  6. hitman247

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    Send a tweet to @Dino and ask him what the limits are. He works in the Twitter support section.
     
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  7. dirtbagceo

    dirtbagceo Newbie

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    I have 40 accts, sending 120 follows per day, teh key is making sure you use a proxy to SETUP the accts, I use http://www.xroxy.com so far so good, but I had a lot of accts deleted that were associated with ONE IP address, bad mistake on my part
     
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    Sounds like good advice.

    I use the proxies that are loaded by Tweet Adder to do all the following/unfollowing/messaging etc ... so guess if I set the account up via a proxy as well, I should be fine.

    120 follows a day does seem kinda low though? I presumed 350 would be under the radar too?
     
  9. muchacho

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    He'll then ban my account presuming I asked the question for suspicious reasons :p
     
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    7878 Executive VIP Premium Member

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    This seems to be an issue that no one can agree on. Some people will say they run hundreds of accounts off 1 proxy, others go as far as to say run 1 account per IP. I personally use 10 accounts per IP and haven't had a problem, but I'd like to hear everyone's take on this.
     
  11. boothjul

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    Twitter TOS limit it to 10 accounts per day. I went over that....by A LOT.....& they suspended all accounts attached to that IP addr.
     
  12. erroronline14

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    Yes, me too. Im only using 1 IP.

    I dont think they are checking the IP alone. There are lot of local networks in the world who are using routers that only have 1 public IP. Many wifi enabled areas are only using 1 public IP. So they cannot just suspend all those users.
     
  13. thefish2010

    thefish2010 BANNED BANNED

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    I've had some really bad experiences with bannings...I've had many tens of thousands of accounts suspended over time...actually hundreds of thousands in total over the last year if you include the accounts that I kamikazed. Also, many accounts that aren't suspended are "Ghosted" meaning when you follow someone, they don't get a notification about it (which is a primary way of getting followers back and traffic to your profile/affiliate offers) and tweets not being included in search results. It used to be that if I simply followed 1 million people across 10,000 accounts per day, I could make $5K+/day. Not so much anymore.

    Here are a couple of things I know for a fact that they look at in terms of banning/ghosting (besides the usual stuff like excessive following):

    1) Profile images. They do the same thing MySpace used to, which is that if you use the exact same image (with the same size) from a banned account, the new account gets banned/ghosted. I had to write a program that would take a single image and make into thousands of "different" images by changing things like compression ratio - same image just different settings. If the things you're doing on Twitter don't relate to your profile image, then you can always just use a scraper and collect images from MySpace or Facebook.

    2) API. If you exclusively use the API to tweet, your accounts are automatically ghosted until you post some tweets "manually" from the web. That obviously is impossible if you are creating thousands of accounts per day. That's why I added the "post from web" feature on Super Duper Auto Tweeter - I wrote that program basically to solve my own problems.

    3) Tweet content. If you retweet tweets that have been posted on banned accounts and those make up a significant majority of your total tweets on each account, or you just post the same thing across a bunch of different accounts, those accounts are headed for suspension very quickly. Even if the tweets are slightly different, but you use a common phrase or include the same URLs you could be in trouble (especially the same URL - you're dead to rights). This is why I added auto-url shortening and variable support to Super Duper Auto Tweeter.

    4) IPs. They do look at IPs that you access the accounts with, but that by itself will not get all of your accounts banned.

    5) Getting reported for spam. That's the single biggest problem - if you do manage to get your accounts situated so that new follower notifications are generated, people might actually visit your profile. Neither it, nor your tweet stream in general, can look spammy or you'll get enough spam reports and your account will be automatically suspended.

    Bottom Line: There are two ways to approach Twitter marketing. One is to tread lightly, making sure you have different images, tweets, etc. You can get some traction out of this method if you're careful. The other is to go balls-to-the-walls and spam the crap out of everyone, knowing the account will die. I refer to these as kamikaze accounts. Even on a brand-new, ghosted account, if you post an @ reply, it shows up for the user when they do a search for @theirname, and those tweets often remain for some time even after an account is suspended. So in that strategy you instantly create an account and send out up to 300 @ replies (any more and the account will be automatically banned by Twitter, and all the tweets will disappear instantly) with links in them.

    The basic premise of Twitter account suspension/ghosting is that it isn't any one thing. They look at a variety of factors (including those above), give them a score, and if you're over a certain thresh hold, you're toast.

    You can still market on Twitter. It just takes an intelligent approach. The best thing to do is try many different strategies and see what has been working over the previous few days, since their anti-spam methods are constantly evolving.

     
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  14. Nintendo

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    A) FOLLOWED: ZERO!!
    B) UNFOLLOWED: ZERO!!
    C) API used? - [ ] Yes or [XXX] No
    E) When did you get banned? With in a few days of creating account!!
    F) Age of the account: Few days old!!
    G) Proxies used? [ ] Yes or [XXX] No

    I simply created almost 20 accounts, using the gmail trick...

    address@gmail.com
    a.ddress@gmail.com
    ad.dress@gmail.com
    add.ress@gmail.com

    and so on. I changed my IP address a few times.
     
  15. scotlad

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    gmail trick is why u got banned.
     
  16. agentk007

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    Very valuable info!

    Where do you get your accounts made?
     
  17. sidaz

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    they need active via email
     
  18. vasilicaciortan

    vasilicaciortan Power Member

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    I made 50 accounts with public proxies. All were dead in a matter of hours...loolll. I made 10 accounts with private proxies and they are still alive.
     
  19. agentk007

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    Can one buy these twitter accounts somewhere? Maybe the wrong place to ask... but I would be curious to know.

    This is a BH forum afterall!
     
  20. dvdvids

    dvdvids BANNED BANNED

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    A) FOLLOWED: no idea
    B) UNFOLLOWED (None)
    C) API used? - [X] Yes
    D) Type of API / Settings TweetAttacks Free Version
    E) When did you get suspended? --> no idea
    F) Age of the account new
    G) Proxies used? [X] No

    I used TweetAttacks for this and left it running to follow lots of users but I got called away by a friend to go down the local bar for a few drinks, and I forgot all about leaving TweetAttacks running whilst I was getting drunker and drunker. When I got home I thought "shit", looked at the twitter account and it was gone!

    I know this post of mine isnt much use really but thought I'd give you a laugh!:drinking2