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Tweet schedulers : is there a risk ?

Discussion in 'Twitter' started by Dilettante, Aug 27, 2015.

  1. Dilettante

    Dilettante Power Member

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    Hello,

    I think of using a twitter scheduler for my twitter accounts, but I have a question first: is there a risk?

    I explain: I want to use Hootsuit or grabinbox and I fear that they let footprints (same IP for all my accounts, for example).

    So, for the people who use a tweet scheduler with mutliple accounts: have you had a ban because of that? Were your Twitter accounts closed? Or is it an useless fear?

    Thanks


    P.S.: for the people who use grabinbox: is there a limit to the number of tweets you can schedule? I found it with Hootsuit, but not with grabinbox.
     
  2. sziamonra

    sziamonra Newbie

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    Hello,
    You don't have to worry about it. When Hootsuite or Grabinbox (or any other app) post to your account they use their own ip addresses. If you go to twitter->settings->your twitter data you can see which apps logged in to your account. There you can check the dates and ip addresses. In my case Hootsuite used 4 ip addresses with one of my account.
    And if you think about it, millions of people use Hootsuite every day, so stop worrying about it.
    About the second question: I don't think there is a limit on grabinbox and you can schedule unlimited tweets. However I don't recommend to schedule too much at once. Their server is not the best, and sometimes when you schedule too much messages (for example 200 tweets in one txt file) their system stops and starts to schedule the messages again. That is not good because twitter will not let to post certain messages because of duplicate content. I post 96 text messages every day on one of my twitter account and I've tried to schedule 1000 messages with one txt file once. They system stopped 2 times and it scheduled every messages 3 times. If you want to be safe upload only 100 messages, put it in your queue and repeate the process. If you do that you won't have any duplicate content.
    P.S.: English isn't my native language so don't judge :)
     
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  3. wizard04

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    Why don't you use something like FL that is not api based bot, it is way more secure and you can add proxies to it.
     
  4. Dilettante

    Dilettante Power Member

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    Hello,

    What do you recommend?

    I don't know an effective bot which can do that.

    MP

    I wouldn't have guessed it. That's well written and, above all, useful.



    I noticed Tweetdeck: it seems effective. But it belongs to twitter ...

    Are there people who use it with a lot of accounts?
     
  5. sziamonra

    sziamonra Newbie

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    Thank you!
    About Tweetdeck: I wouldn't recommend it. Here is why: When you log in with your main account to Tweetdeck it logs in from the same ip to all of the accounts which is connected to that account. It's not bad if you use all of these accounts with the same ip but if you use different ips it can alert twitter. That is because tweetdeck don't use the twitter api. For example Hootsuite use it and when you want to log in you give permission to hootsuite to access your twitter data but it does that through their servers. Thereby twitter won't have any idea what is the ip you communicate with hootsuite (or any other app). For example if you unfollow somebody with manageflitter you send a command to their server, they connect to twitter from their ip and make the action. Even if you log in these apps twitter doesn't know your ip, they just see that that app have permission to access the data which is belong to that account.
     
  6. Dilettante

    Dilettante Power Member

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    Ok. Thanks for explaining it.

    And would you (or someone else) know a good bot who can schedule tweets and use proxy? I use FL which is great, but it can't schedule tweets (I'm sad, really).
     
  7. GiftGuru

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    You should definitely be worried about it.

    Last week they suspended every account that I had tied to a scheduler. On top of that, I made new accounts and IMMEDIATELY upon allowing the oAuth on the scheduler (I am not going to reveal the name of the scheduler but it is one of the biggest ones) twitter would immediately lock the account. I would then go and unlock it. Within 3 hours all accounts were suspended again.

    Twitter is coming down hard on auto software that uses their API
     
  8. Dilettante

    Dilettante Power Member

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    "Last week they suspended every account that I had tied to a scheduler. On top of that, I made new accounts and IMMEDIATELY upon allowing the oAuth on the scheduler (I am not going to reveal the name of the scheduler but it is one of the biggest ones) twitter would immediately lock the account. I would then go and unlock it. Within 3 hours all accounts were suspended again."

    Thanks.

    "Twitter is coming down hard on auto software that uses their API"

    You mean:
    - something like hootsuit, socialbro, ... ?
    - a software I can download in my computer and use ?
     
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    Yes, the scheduler I used was web based, not software. Basically if you have to oAuth the account when you attach it they will slap you around like a little bitch.
     
  10. Dilettante

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    That's what I feared.

    I may have found an interesting software for what I want to do.

    I have to gather informations.

    And I have had the same problem as you: one of my account with 10,345 followers has had during some hours only 3 followers, then all my followers came back.
     
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    Twitter has its own scheduler, which makes me wonder if they are really clamping down on scheduling.
     
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    Where is it?

    I saw it for the enterprises, but not for the individual.
     
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    Ah yes, that ...

    I had seen it, but :

    1) It belongs to twitter, and I fear that my accounts won't be safe (a lot of accounts with various IP)

    2)

    Actually, I'm looking at mb Tweet edition. Some use it? I would like to know your opinions. Can I schedule tweets with it ? Is it safe? Thanks
     
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    Seems like mixed information in here. However, there is no major risk of issues with the posting mechanisms cited here. If someone had a mass ban associated with all the accounts they were using with a proprietary software that doesn't mean it's something wrong with the software. In fact, it's much more likely that misuse or misconfiguration of complicated settings can easily cause mass account bannings. Failing to check "use proxies" for instance could easily leak one's local IP to every associated twitter account.

    There's plenty of perfectly acceptable and working implementations of oAuth still being used on millions of twitter accounts.
     
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    I was hesitant to share what I shared and I am not going to reveal anymore at this point. By all means davers.... go for it... you seem to have all the answers.
     
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    Dude the only thing you shared was the comment that an api is risky. You could at least mention the site, its no use just keeping it to yourself if your saying its risky. We want to hear from people that are using to see if things match up.
     
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    I rarely use Tweet schedulers, but I'm signed up for 2: Hootsuite and Buffer. I've never had a problem out of either of these.

    Then again, I rarely use Twitter. It's more of an impulse thing for me. But I can tell you my friends - who are social marketers - do use Hootsuite and Buffer. They haven't been banned yet.

    So I suppose it may have something to do with whether you're using proxies, etc. I think the chances of being banned increase when you're doing black hat stuff, even if you're going through a scheduler. Keep in mind that Twitter can see what you're doing bc you're connected to them through your scheduler. If you're doing something suspicious on even one of your accounts, that's enough for Twitter.