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[Tutorial/Guide] What's happening with my site - for beginners

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by JannuBl22t, May 30, 2011.

  1. JannuBl22t

    JannuBl22t Junior Member

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    Hey hey people!

    I have seen very many people here over the months asking about what's happening with their websites and they are telling that Xrumer has killed their website etc.. So I thought I will write a little guide or tutorial how to NOT kill your site with Xrumer and what's happening with your site when it's gone.

    Xrumer has killed my site

    Soooooo.. you are saying that Xrumer killed your site. That's cool.. but for example.. if you have a young site.. lets say 0-30 days old site and you run a 100k blast to it and in 1-2 weeks your site is missing from Google or has dropped few hundred spots. Now let's think logically.. Your can't do that many links to your website that fast.. it's not natural. It's like a baby is born with a fkin beard.. it's weird as hell and Google will think the same, that's why it will give you a penalty. So try to start blasting your websites on second month or so.. then getting a penalty is little bit harder because your site has some age.

    For example I have a 8 months site.. where I basically send about 500k Xrumer blasts every week.. I nuke it almost every day.. I send thousands of SB links to it every day.. and this site has become an authority.

    You need to give some time to your website and then you can blast it.

    My site is gone from Google

    Well.. if you didn't "kill" your website with Xrumer.. and you have added loads of content and you have built good backlinks to your site. Everything should be all good, but your site is still gone from Google.. WTF FFS GD.. Yup, loads of weird capital letters, but stuff like that happens..
    BUT IT'S GOOD THAT IT HAPPENS!
    Why, you ask? Well that basically means that Google is dancing with your site. It basically means that Google is searching a new place for you in search index and since you have done everything correctly, you WILL RAISE in search, trust me ;)

    My site was gone from G and now it's back

    Yup, as I said it's called Google dance and Google will find a new spot to you in the index. There are many types of dances as I like to call them:

    Lapdance, dirty dance, striptease.. Basically what they mean is:

    Lapdance - Your site will go away for a day or two and it will come back to the same spot or little bit higher.

    Dirty dance - Your site will go away from search results for a week, but it will come back usually to higher spot.

    Striptease (so called sandbox) - It will strip your site's butt naked.. you won't be in search results for 1-2 months and when it comes back and you have blasted loads of links to your site on that period, it will come back to search to a higher spot, but if you haven't then it usually will fall many pages.

    What's wrong with my site, I can't get it indexed

    Well, have you tried bookmarking it or pinging it? Use pingdevice.com or if you can, Senuke's indexer.. then it will be in index within hours if it doesn't work, then your website is probably full of crap and you should check it and remove some weird stuff that is not necessary.

    Dude, you are talking shit, Xrumer killed my site

    Nope.. Did you know Google loves content. Think about last 2 weeks.. have you added new content to your blog or to your forum? Well.. if your answer is no then why do you think Xrumer "killed" your site.. it was Google do turned your traffic flow off. But don't worry, it's not a "sandbox".. all you need to do is add some more content and don't blast your site for a while. It will come back to search results..

    Great idea is to post maybe.. 2-3 blog posts per week, then Google thinks your site is active. Google loves content and active sites.. If you do like I suggest you to do.. Google will be like a horny dog, the doesn't give damn about anything and if your site has some age too, you can blast your head bald.. if you want to go to extremes..

    So that's all for now, if something will come to my mind I will write it here.
    Feel free to ask questions.
     
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  2. ronaldinho19

    ronaldinho19 Junior Member

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    what do you thik about blast direct to site without buffers?

    The spam were devaluated for you?

    What linkbuilding strategy do you use?
     
  3. gingerlyspicy

    gingerlyspicy Junior Member

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    @OP are u talking about direct blast ? will my new born site be equallly hurt if i blast the tiers?
     
  4. JannuBl22t

    JannuBl22t Junior Member

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    Yeah, I'm talking about direct blasts.. you can do as many tiers as you want, but don't blast your site when it's young.. then this "Xrumer killed my site" happens.
     
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  5. dizz

    dizz Elite Member

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    This is a smart guy he has helped me with my xrummer questions .I hope he help by sharing more help.Even an old man like me needs to be helped every once in awhile.
    Thanks
    Dizz
     
  6. chailak

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    10 points. Great Explanation I had similar problems and i felt safe when i read your post. Google Re Indexing my site after striptease
     
  7. JannuBl22t

    JannuBl22t Junior Member

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    Hehe thanks Dizz.. I love to help others, helping others makes me happy :)

    @Chailak.. I'm glad that my post helped, if you have other questions feel free to ask :)
     
  8. jlei523

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    Thanks for the post.
     
  9. fruity_looper

    fruity_looper Junior Member

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    Lets say I haven't done any blasts at all to my pages and they are 1 year old.
    (I have run a few of those backling scripts but doesn't look like i gained from them.)

    Would you suggest blasting directly to my sites or create social bookmarks, rss feeds and blast to them to start with?

    Also, thanks for the info!
    More than one type of dance. :D
     
  10. JannuBl22t

    JannuBl22t Junior Member

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    Well, that's a really good age, blast as much as you like.. but I still would suggest you to build more and more content. Content is really good.. the more you have the more you can blast.

    I accidentally messed up 6 month old site with like 25 posts.. with blasting too many links. Yes, it came back..and when I added another 25 posts.. it started growing again.

    I'm not sure that it is so, but I seriously think.. content is the king. The more you have the better.. like autoblogs, ok, it would be nice if those articles are rewritten, but big autoblogs can bring loads of money too.. and then you can sell them for $1000. I have done it and I know you can do like this.

    Why content is good? Well.. basically Google's algo is built to put informative pages to the top positions and not that good ones below... Ok there can be very many BH sites on first pages.. but most of the sites are still big and popular.. and why they are popular? They have content.. which gives info to people and that's what Google likes..

    I have done so many tests with that content theory that.. it has to be like this. I have ranked bullshit posts to #1 spot.. but within a week or so they will drop to 10th page.. but if I write a really nice post with the same keyword and there's loads of useful stuff.. it stays on the first page. I have around 100 posts.. that I have made, that are still on the first page.. but I haven't blasted them for months.
     
  11. XrumerSeo

    XrumerSeo Junior Member

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    I wish people would get the facts right before posting rubish

    You say dont do loads of backlinks on new site this is a myth you think this happend to youtube / twitter / facebook etc ? no it dint

    Only a num nut would not 301 there url, hence sandbox protection

    We have 3 dedis running xrumer all day everyday and only stop to swith mods/list

    Not once have we seen or had any problems on our sites
     
  12. JannuBl22t

    JannuBl22t Junior Member

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    Um.. I don't think you understood me correctly.

    First of all.. Read the title. There are only few beginners who are able to get 3 dedis with xrumers.

    Secondly.. Why YouTube is popular? Because of it's videos.. people love them. There's no way that you can compare Youtube with a blog, forum or a regular website.

    Why Twitter and Facebook are popular? Because they are social sites where people can communicate. You can't compare those sites with blogs, forums or regular websites.

    You are running your Xrumer all day every day.. but stop them and check what happens with your sites. Google will deindex your forum profiles and spammy posts within a month.

    If your sites are full of crap.. and you stop blasting, they will drop like rocks.
     
  13. XrumerSeo

    XrumerSeo Junior Member

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    For our blasts we use a few layers only the last layer are profiles and even then only half of the profile blast are anchor text the other half are link backs to them with phpbb

    Who still uses profiles nowadays
     
  14. JannuBl22t

    JannuBl22t Junior Member

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    But try yourself if you don't believe me.. or you are afraid ? :)
    If you are afraid of loosing your money.. blast somebody else's sites for money.. and don't blast your sites for a month.. :)

    Quantity = short term
    Quality = long term

    You tell me which one brings more money.
     
  15. XrumerSeo

    XrumerSeo Junior Member

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    How can i be afraid ? we only use 301 for our url anyways like i said

    You should of said in your guide about this unless you are useing your real url

    I agree with

    Quantity = short term
    Quality = long term
     
  16. JannuBl22t

    JannuBl22t Junior Member

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    Well, but mate.. I didn't say anything about 301. I was talking about blasting many links to your young site. I never said that you can't do blasts to your young sites.

    Basically what I said was "Don't do too much".