(tutorial) Fishy Seo That Does Not Look Much Fishy And Ranks You

Intruder said:
Thanks for sharing valuable info.
My questions:
How much money do I have to invest ?
and $4k is it pure profit ?

It look like I have to buy 100-150 articles of each cost near around $5
5*150= $750

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Hover on freelancer/Elance/PayPerHour/MicroJobWorkers and get writers those write a 500 words article for $2.5
Post a job, you will get many candidates from there.
100 arts for main site = keep 50 of 300 words and other 50 ranges from 300-1000.... not more than 250 $
For pumper sites = 15 arts on each = not more than $40 per site.
Create like 6 pumper domains so pumper = 240 $ + 60 $ domains = 300 $
Per month 6 seo hostings = take from SeoHosting OR from (there are many seoHostings) = $30 per month max.

Expenses is really low .You see approx. 600 $ for sites setup and content and your labor.....and $30 per month on hosting and spend like $50 per month on articles.....

$4k is the max amount, i did from my 1 site in a month. Normally my profits lie between $800-$2k from a site.
I work on many sites at a given instance.
THe technique is proven for difficult keywords even. Did you read that social part? that part alone gets you lots of authority itself from social media as your posts get viral like mad and lots of traffic comes from socialSites alone.
i still remember i had got approx. 20kHits in one day after sharing urls on some social sites......
Ask if any other question.
Cheers!
 
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I personally think that you have no ideea how to do seo if you say backlinks wont work anymore. I still do seo with wiki - social networks - high pr- incotent backlinks - social bookmarking etc. Works just fine.
seowannabe
 
eLeSlash said:
I personally think that you have no ideea how to do seo if you say backlinks wont work anymore. I still do seo with wiki - social networks - high pr- incotent backlinks - social bookmarking etc. Works just fine.
seowannabe
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I process seo of over 1000 websites and deal with 400+ clients a month. I dont have an idea about seo? really? i was at seomoz at some point also. I am not trying to prove here that i am a seo ninza or something like that but its clear u dont have an idea of things.
i never said backlinks does not work and if you are thinking that wikis, bookmarks such links are a good thing in days of today then u r wrong. Those stuffs might be cool for a site that u have made for ranking for short time but a brand will never go with stuffs like that.
Actually there is difference in the way, you can see services being offered in BHW BST, on fiverr and being offered by premium seo companies like seoservices.us
I dont think i should go in deep with an argument with u.
If you are thinking that those stuffs work for all the sites then wait for a few months and keep working on ur sites. U will shortly feel that those stuffs are for temprory basis ranking and u get removed later.
 
Why would you state that incontent article backlinks dont work anymore then? speaking about phpfox - wikis - elgg - drupal - dolphin - oxwall - buddypress
I feel like you deliberately want to make people confuse about seo
What seo strategy did you shared here beside getting thousand of likes for facebook? Is that what is now seo about? Likes on facebook?
 
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It all boils down to these few questions...

1) How many times have you done this?

2) How long have you the 6 domains 301 to the main site?

3) Have you had one of the 6 domains penalised and had to remove the 301?
 
eLeSlash said:
Why would you state that incontent article backlinks dont work anymore then? speaking about phpfox - wikis - elgg - drupal - dolphin - oxwall - buddypress
I feel like you deliberately want to make people confuse about seo
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They work but they are for ranking you on temp. basis.
The purpose of guide was to make someone ranking in safely and in a way that is almost for a long term.
links those u typed above ^^ are good enough for ranking someone but that is completely temp basis.

Actually its all about how a thing work.
Lemme explain in detail.
There are providers those sell bookmarks for $5 for 300 bookmarks.. right?
now there are many people those will charge you $100 for only 1 submission on stumbleupon. But guess what? their profile on stumbleupon adds value to the site. They are old on stumbleupon. Have likes on legit posts. Have legit comments. lots of stuffs like that.

Everything is good but only, when it adds real value that can get passed by a human employee. Know of penguin?
that does not deal with "over anchor optimization stuff" only. Panda was all about ur on page seo and penguin is all about off page seo.
In panda, they wanted u to create a nice site and looked for legit real unque content on ur site etc and in penguin they are searching for such stuffs for ur off page.
To be honest i dont think "if someone is selling a link then its a right thing in terms of seo". You can include me and my services also in that line even<<
 
eLeSlash said:
Why would you state that incontent article backlinks dont work anymore then? speaking about phpfox - wikis - elgg - drupal - dolphin - oxwall - buddypress
I feel like you deliberately want to make people confuse about seo
What seo strategy did you shared here beside getting thousand of likes for facebook? Is that what is now seo about? Likes on facebook?
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I use those links for Web 2.0's only. Again, for long term rankings, you really should avoid these type of links to the money site.

Just my $0.02!
 
What seo strategy did you shared here beside getting thousand of likes for facebook? Is that what is now seo about? Likes on facebook?
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i talked about creating a site that looks best of the best in terms of content and is capable of getting love from social media sites theirselve. I also talked that how can u play lil safer.
If you are not agree with any of the things then move away. Easy?

It all boils down to these few questions...

1) How many times have you done this?

2) How long have you the 6 domains 301 to the main site?

3) Have you had one of the 6 domains penalised and had to remove the 301?
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More than 100 times but for 3-4 times only, i did 301 to main site. for oher 96-97 times, i gave a link to main site from pumper site.
Initially (in first 3-4 times) i sold the site before a pumper was penalized.

I will recommend giving your main site a link from pumper site > 301ing pumper to main domain.
Cheers!
 
seoguy99 said:
More than 100 times but for 3-4 times only, i did 301 to main site. for oher 96-97 times, i gave a link to main site from pumper site.
Initially (in first 3-4 times) i sold the site before a pumper was penalized.

I will recommend giving your main site a link from pumper site > 301ing pumper to main domain.
Cheers!
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Thanks for clarifying, the devil is in the detail.

I think personally from my point of view, there is not enough evidence to suggest that the 301 strategy is effective and safe long term.

I imagine it would provide a boost short term but as to how long or how effective the method is, is sketchy at best.

However creating good pumper sites with a link on will always be great, in fact it is probably the most effective method right now, it just takes a lot of time and effort to setup.

SEOguy99, why don't you try a proper case study of this long term?
 
crusher said:
I use those links for Web 2.0's only. Again, for long term rankings, you really should avoid these type of links to the money site.

Just my $0.02!
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I totally agree, but i didnt stated you should use this types of links to your money site(tier1). Thats a really bad move. I post on this platforms to my moneysite only if the root domain is PR >3++.
I would not say that wiki social links etc are bad for you now, i say you can still include them in your seo campains.
 
seoguy99 said:
More than 100 times but for 3-4 times only, i did 301 to main site. for oher 96-97 times, i gave a link to main site from pumper site.
Initially (in first 3-4 times) i sold the site before a pumper was penalized.

I will recommend giving your main site a link from pumper site > 301ing pumper to main domain.
Cheers!
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Thanks for clarifying, the devil is in the detail.

I think personally from my point of view, there is not enough evidence to suggest that the 301 strategy is effective and safe long term.

I imagine it would provide a boost short term but as to how long or how effective the method is, is sketchy at best.

However creating good pumper sites with a link on will always be great, in fact it is probably the most effective method right now, it just takes a lot of time and effort to setup.

SEOguy99, why don't you try a proper case study of this long term?
 
gorang said:
Thanks for clarifying, the devil is in the detail.

I think personally from my point of view, there is not enough evidence to suggest that the 301 strategy is effective and safe long term.

I imagine it would provide a boost short term but as to how long or how effective the method is, is sketchy at best.

However creating good pumper sites with a link on will always be great, in fact it is probably the most effective method right now, it just takes a lot of time and effort to setup.

SEOguy99, why don't you try a proper case study of this long term?
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As i said earlier i process seo of many clients every month and therefore i have seen that how are they ranking and tanking and rising and everything.
You your right.
301 is definetely not a right stuff for long term move and pumper is your best bet for current time ranking (in Australia almost of the sites related to insurance niche that is on top 10, is doing that. AND you can feel that easily urself. (however they are creating better pumper sites).

You are asking for a case study. I am trying to say ^^ there that the thing has been tested by me personally on my personal sites for over 80 times with success. The only thing i will recommend to give link to ur main site from pumper and not 301.

301 should be done if you are in extreme hurry and can not wait to get ranked.
 
Sorry, i am talking about the 301 which you did 3-4 times i think you said? We need more testing to see how effective it is in my opinion.

If i had the funds available to test i would but i've got debts to pay :/
 
eLeSlash said:
I totally agree, but i didnt stated you should use this types of links to your money site(tier1). Thats a really bad move. I post on this platforms to my moneysite only if the root domain is PR >3++.
I would not say that wiki social links etc are bad for you now, i say you can still include them in your seo campains.
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Just send these to the pumper sites and you are all good.

I am using this method on a site of mine, and the results are EXCELLENT! And I am really angry to seoguy99 for revealing this method :)

I suggest, instead of asking questions, just do it yourself. I found a lot of sites ranking #1 in tough niches doing this. If anyone is interested, pm me and I will send over the sites so that you can verify yourself.
 
crusher said:
Just send these to the pumper sites and you are all good.

I am using this method on a site of mine, and the results are EXCELLENT! And I am really angry to seoguy99 for revealing this method :)

I suggest, instead of asking questions, just do it yourself. I found a lot of sites ranking #1 in tough niches doing this. If anyone is interested, pm me and I will send over the sites so that you can verify yourself.
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You've been 301ing your pumper sites to your money site?

Has this worked out long term?

Cmon man give a little back ^^
 
It has been around 3 months I am doing this. Redirected 4 so far. And am sitting @ #2 for a term which gets 100000+ exacts per month.

I think most people won't do it because of the cost involved. I spent around $1k so far (Excluding the content of the money site). Though, the cost doesn't matter as I already got back the ROI.
 
crusher said:
It has been around 3 months I am doing this. Redirected 4 so far. And am sitting @ #2 for a term which gets 100000+ exacts per month.

I think most people won't do it because of the cost involved. I spent around $1k so far (Excluding the content of the money site). Though, the cost doesn't matter as I already got back the ROI.
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I probably won't do this unless i find a good enough site worth investing this much money in, but it is good to have the knowledge.

I think the 3 months mark is a good point to say "Its working". Did you redirect all 4 sites at once? Or every few weeks add a new one?

One thing i foresee as a problem.... The backlink anchor text profile of the other sites will transfer to the new site(i assume) which could really mess up the LSI/relevancy of your main site(i assume). Did you pick out domains which had similar backlink anchor text to yours?

I also assume the 301 domains had a decent backlink profile?

Lastly were these dropped domains with PR or domains still under auction?

Sorry for the questions but as i said previously, the devil is in the detail.
 
gorang said:
I probably won't do this unless i find a good enough site worth investing this much money in, but it is good to have the knowledge.

I think the 3 months mark is a good point to say "Its working". Did you redirect all 4 sites at once? Or every few weeks add a new one?

One thing i foresee as a problem.... The backlink anchor text profile of the other sites will transfer to the new site(i assume) which could really mess up the LSI/relevancy of your main site(i assume). Did you pick out domains which had similar backlink anchor text to yours?

I also assume the 301 domains had a decent backlink profile?

Lastly were these dropped domains with PR or domains still under auction?

Sorry for the questions but as i said previously, the devil is in the detail.
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Let me answer them one by one.........

I think the 3 months mark is a good point to say "Its working". Did you redirect all 4 sites at once? Or every few weeks add a new one?
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I 301'd 1 site every 12 days.

One thing i foresee as a problem.... The backlink anchor text profile of the other sites will transfer to the new site(i assume) which could really mess up the LSI/relevancy of your main site(i assume). Did you pick out domains which had similar backlink anchor text to yours?
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That's not really a problem as those domains are pretty old and I guess Google didn't count those backlinks. I don't know actually :)

It's not possible to pick domain in the same niche unless you have $5k to spend (contacting domain owners one by one and offering them to buy and all that). Though, I did find 2-3 domains in the broader niche.

I also assume the 301 domains had a decent backlink profile?
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I found domains that didn't actually had good number of backlinks. Though, all the domains have 10-80 links.

It's not actually hard to understand, I used this form -

Money site (70+ articles) < 50 Web 2.0's with 1/2 unique content per property+handmade social bookmarks+exclusive blog network (I recommend jacky8's "The Reformed Network")+High quality Question & Answer links

Pumper Site 1 (5 articles) < Rank Showdown+SAPE

Pumper Site 2 (6 articles) < Sherlock hacks Google+SAPE

Pumper Site 3 (7 articles) < Nothing but NLB+SAPE

Pumper Site 4(8 articles) < Rank Showdown+SAPE

Pumper Site 5 (9 articles) < Sherlock hacks Google+SAPE

Pumper site 6 (10 articles) < Nothing but NLB+SAPE

I am not promoting these services, I am meaning that the backlinks should be done like that. I bought a lot of services from Fiverr as well. Host the pumper sites on different ip's.
 
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Yeah, Many elite members talked about this for many times. Actually Elite members talk about this all the time in some way


- Making buffer domains and then rank it and get the serps ( looks like the best waaaay )
- Either Guest posting to really high ranking site and then blast the hell of you post + Edu and Gov high rank domain linking

One way or another getting natural link ( which is hard to get ) to your site. It's enough to look to the costs to know that it's really working way

Thanks for the method and it's easy to notice while searching for keywords competition that authority sites with very low number of backlinks are in the top. But analyze the backlinks and you will know why they are there.. Really high backlinks
 
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