Trouble with tactical differences between Whitehat and Blackhat.

kbobotoor · Oct 13, 2009

Okay so I've been interested in the idea of online income as a part time thing for the last couple months now and have been using BHW as my main source of information/research in an attempt to understand the entire industry and perhaps formulate a neat idea to try out (eventually). However, I'm confused a lot of the times when I start drawing out a decent idea and then realize some of the 'tools' (or whatever) I've decided to use are 'blackhat'. I'm a University student so I'm usually aiming for something that requires little work and would be happy with anything over $99/week. Is this a realistic goal? Will I have to use more 'Blackhatish' tactics? Are there any resources or 'rules' that discern the two [BH/WH]?

Thanks!

ps I think this is my first post. ha.

ForeverNever · Oct 13, 2009

Any goal is realistic if you set your mind do it. But it's going to take work. Lots and lots of work. And yes, at times you will delve into tools and methods that may not be for the most ethical person so if you are scared of breaking "morals" turn around and go flip burgers or wait tables through college, then graduate and work your 9-5 until you're 65, retire and die.

...or don't let morality get the best of you.

kbobotoor · Oct 13, 2009

Oh no, don't get me wrong. I have no moral/ethical objections to Blackhatting. In fact, Whitehat is simply the start. I see Blackhat as a more daunting task as I would assume you have more 'angles' to watch, which is essentially my problem. Sometimes when writing up my 'plans', I'm not aware I'm delving into Blackhat methods, and am therefore not prepared for any repercussions (that may ultimately resulting in the entire thing collapsing).

Basically I guess I'm wondering if there's any 'textbook' out there. A resource, wiki, anything that has some sort of 'database' with definitions on all these terms/tools/resources being used. Sure a Google search works, sometimes. Usually I just end up back at these forums though ha. Is there a difference between learning to Blackhat and learning to learn how to blackhat?

ForeverNever · Oct 13, 2009

kbobotoor said:
Oh no, don't get me wrong. I have no moral/ethical objections to Blackhatting. In fact, Whitehat is simply the start. I see Blackhat as a more daunting task as I would assume you have more 'angles' to watch, which is essentially my problem. Sometimes when writing up my 'plans', I'm not aware I'm delving into Blackhat methods, and am therefore not prepared for any repercussions (that may ultimately resulting in the entire thing collapsing).

Basically I guess I'm wondering if there's any 'textbook' out there. A resource, wiki, anything that has some sort of 'database' with definitions on all these terms/tools/resources being used. Sure a Google search works, sometimes. Usually I just end up back at these forums though ha. Is there a difference between learning to Blackhat and learning to learn how to blackhat?

Well 2 things here:

First, on "repercussions." Blackhat does not mean illegal and you need to make sure you stay on the legal side of the line.

Second, there is so much information when it comes to internet marketing. Far too much to learn and memorize in a short amount of time.

My advice would be to select an area of internet marketing, determine the best methods being used in that field, apply blackhat, fail, change method or field, fail again, repeat until success.

kbobotoor · Oct 13, 2009

Awesome thanks.

As far as 'repercussions' sorry, I didn't mean illegal. I meant more like de-indexing, Aff ban, etc. Nothing extreme involving the law.

And alright, great suggestion. Then allow me to alter the question a bit, anyone have a 'list' of internet marketing areas? Can you explain this a bit with an example or whatever?

beaglejuice · Oct 13, 2009

Simple

Whitehat = follow TOS

Blackhat = fuck the TOS and break the rule

And alright, great suggestion. Then allow me to alter the question a bit, anyone have a 'list' of internet marketing areas? Can you explain this a bit with an example or whatever?

Scan this forum dude. There are plenty to choose from.

kbobotoor · Oct 13, 2009

Sorry, I was looking for more of a definition. Okay I'll make an assumption here, a 'link wheel'. Is this an example of an 'internet marketing area'?

ForeverNever · Oct 13, 2009

kbobotoor said:
Sorry, I was looking for more of a definition. Okay I'll make an assumption here, a 'link wheel'. Is this an example of an 'internet marketing area'?

hehe not quite. seriously just search through the forum a lot.

No there is not definitive guide on this forum. You may find some BS book written by some self proclaimed guru, but nothing like the information you will pick up just by reading page after page of this forum.

A lot of it won't have anything to do with what you want to do, but absorb it anyways. It's all valuable information.

kbobotoor · Oct 13, 2009

My intent from the beginning, been going good so far! Thanks everyone!

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