Tools for Private Blog Network

Getting sites live is very much the easy part, keeping them up and running is a pain in the arse, and making sure they actually help a site get ranked is a completely different story

This is exactly the thing.... I setup a pretty natural looking private network not long ago, I can't see or think about anything I could have done better.
Then - the ranking of the site I am using the network mostly to has decreased for the the top keywords! Do I have a idea why? No, of course not... maybe just a dance and maybe not... It' not as easy with these private networks as many people think.
 
Greetings fellow IMers.

I have done much research lately on private blog networks. I have learned a lot and am about to take the plunge.

Here are some general questions I have:

1) Are anonymous nameservers needed when u have private domain registration?

2) I am thinking of using WP multi-site (with domain forwarding) along with multiple ixwebhosting accounts and their 15 IP plan. Do you see any pitfalls to this strategy?

3) Is there software available to quickly manage 100 + blogs across several webhosts?

4) Are different c-class IPs even needed if the sites are not going to be interlinked?

Has anyone tried this?

Code:
http://www.xmarkpro.com/features/content

Please list any and all tips/tools that would make this process easier.

Thanks to all who contribute. I am sure to have more questions.



Don't quit your dayjob.
 
A few things I can suggest

- Use multiple hosts
- Register hosting accounts on different dates
- Register domain on different domains
 
This is exactly the thing.... I setup a pretty natural looking private network not long ago, I can't see or think about anything I could have done better.
Then - the ranking of the site I am using the network mostly to has decreased for the the top keywords! Do I have a idea why? No, of course not... maybe just a dance and maybe not... It' not as easy with these private networks as many people think.

Your network has been probably slapped with 'untrustworthy' filter. It effectively renders any outgoing links useless but the network sites are still indexed. It is also done by the algorithm (no human intervention required to spot this type of footprint). There are far more private networks than public networks that got hit and a lot of them had a worse outcome - deindexing. I have heard from reputable sources that the number of deindexed sites is now into 7 figures.
 
i think even using seo hosting with different ip still leave a footprint as the site are hosting by the same company at the same location. unless you are using 10 or more different hosts. thats what i think. correct me if i am wrong. thanks
 
Did you read my thread at all dude? What kind of penalties do you speak about? (Any outgoing links useless, lol!) If I showed all pages in my network to 100 SEO experts, 0 of them will think that it goes about the network, as well as that the sites should help ranking some other sites. Come on, wake up an live and do not read that much of a bullshit, such as 7 figures websites have been deindexed :)

Your network has been probably slapped with 'untrustworthy' filter. It effectively renders any outgoing links useless but the network sites are still indexed. It is also done by the algorithm (no human intervention required to spot this type of footprint). There are far more private networks than public networks that got hit and a lot of them had a worse outcome - deindexing. I have heard from reputable sources that the number of deindexed sites is now into 7 figures.
 
Did you read my thread at all dude? What kind of penalties do you speak about? (Any outgoing links useless, lol!) If I showed all pages in my network to 100 SEO experts, 0 of them will think that it goes about the network, as well as that the sites should help ranking some other sites. Come on, wake up an live and do not read that much of a bullshit, such as 7 figures websites have been deindexed :)

Seriously? You pose a question and when someone answers it you throw a trantrum when you don't like the answer?

But I see you are from central Europe, so perhaps English is not your first language and there was a misunderstanding. So lets go through your original statement one by one ...

> This is exactly the thing.... I setup a pretty natural looking private network not long ago, I can't see or think about anything I could have done better.

To answer this you have to think about 'what is natural'. What seems natural to is a set of different conditions to what seems natural to an indexing algorithm. They both have different terms of reference and they are not necessarily mutually inclusive. Actually, in this case, what looks natural to a human visitor is irrelevant. It is only the bot that counts.

> Then - the ranking of the site I am using the network mostly to has decreased for the the top keywords!

This could be interpreted a few ways. Did you meant the rankings of your money site dropped or the rankings the actual network sites had dropped. I am going to assume it is the rankings of your target sites (as that is the motive for building a private network).

This is not an unusual event right now. Several public and private networks have been terminated from the index. While several high profile public networks have occupied comments on forums, it is the private networks that are quietly taking the heavy hits. I know of 2 blog networks alone that account for a six figure site dexindexing. And that is just 2.

If you have a blog network, then you fit into 1 of 3 categories ...

1. No rankings drop on target sites and network still indexed.

2. Target site rankings have dropped but network still indexed.

3. Target site rankings have dropped and network deindexed.

Most focus has been on 3.

> Do I have a idea why? No, of course not... maybe just a dance and maybe not... It' not as easy with these private networks as many people think.

You don't fit into category 1. You don't mention any deindexing. Therefore, by process of elimination you fit into category 2. The value of your outgoing links pointing to your site have been decreased and your target site has returned to its natural ranking level it would have experienced without those links. It is achieved by tagging those links sources as being untrustworthy. Of course other links pointing to your site may have been affected by this and your blog network actually has nothing to do with this. But I can only work with the information you provide.

So, do you have an idea now? Yes you do.

If you want to build another network, first think about how the current networks are being eliminated.
 
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Don't quit your dayjob.

That is really good advice. It just so happens my day job is internet marketing. In fact, have been doing this for 10+ years. So yeah, I won't quit my "day job".

It is f*cktards like you that give this forum a bad name. I guess you started off knowing everything. Good for you. The rest of us are here to learn. No go patronize someone else.
 
So funny how everyone thinks google has unlimited Processing powers and can test one zillion factors on every domain to determine a site belongs to a network by some footprint that occurres naturally on millions of web pages. KISS :)
 
That is really good advice. It just so happens my day job is internet marketing. In fact, have been doing this for 10+ years. So yeah, I won't quit my "day job".

Then perhaps going back to flipping burgers might be a better career move for you.
 
Ixwebhosting is not enough believe me, the i.p.s they give are not even unique class C

I would recommend setting up aroun 150 shared hosting accounts and spreading them over those. It will only cost around $800 a month and looks a lot more natural. SEO hosts are being targetted by Google as the only sites that would bother using the are blog networks.
 
Then perhaps going back to flipping burgers might be a better career move for you.

Heck if I had a penny for every time I heard that one here I'd have made even more money.
 
At this moment we are testing some things. Trying to get 2 aliases indexed. If you have any suggestions please PM.
 
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