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Happy thanksgiving to all.
 

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Yeah even if the story behind it isnt true its a good day to spend time with family and friends. Happy Thanksgiving people!
 

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Happy Thanksgiving everyone. It's nice not living on an Indian reservation any more, so I can enjoy a federal holiday without the death glares from the Native Americans.
 

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How wouldn't it true, it was documented by several of the early settlers at the time(of course it was just the usual Harvest Festival back then). Hollywood, and the Media may have taken liberties with it and changed some things around for tv shows/movies and news reporting over the past few decades. Thanksgiving is the modern version of those early harvest festivals.

Happy Thanksgiving.
 

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Happy Thanksgiving my American friends and those around the world who celebrate it. Let's see Obama pardon his last turkey.
 

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How wouldn't it true, it was documented by several of the early settlers at the time(of course it was just the usual Harvest Festival back then). Hollywood, and the Media may have taken liberties with it and changed some things around for tv shows/movies and news reporting over the past few decades. Thanksgiving is the modern version of those early harvest festivals.

Happy Thanksgiving.
There was this Indian, Squanto of the Wampanoag tribe, that was captured by the English explorers and sold into slavery in Spain. He was set free by monks. At the time of the settlers landing at New Plymouth, there had been a plague that killed about 14 million Indians. Squanto led the ships to an abandoned Indian village that had cabins already built by the tribe that died in that village.

Disclaimer: I am a card carrying wagon burner registered with the Mattaponi tribe. This is the tribe that allowed Captain John Smith onto American shores, and whose Chief Wahunsenacawh's (Powhatan) daughter, Pocahontas, married. My other primary lineage is Scandanavian.

Never-the-less, have a happy Thanksgiving.
 
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There was this Indian, Squanto of the Wampanoag tribe, that was captured by the English explorers and sold into slavery in Spain. He was set free by monks. At the time of the settlers landing at New Plymouth, there had been a plague that killed about 14 million Indians. Squanto led the ships to an abandoned Indian village that had cabins already built by the tribe that died in that village.

Disclaimer: I am a card carrying wagon burner registered with the Mattaponi tribe. This is the tribe that allowed Captain John Smith onto American shores, and whose Chiefs daughter, Pocahontas, married. My other primary lineage is Scandanavian.

Never-the-less, have a happy Thanksgiving.

She married John Wolfe not John Smith

Also how did they allow john smith on shore if the land was already owned by the company he was working for. The Virginia company of London was the first ever property owners of the lands of Virginia in history.
 

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She married John Wolfe not John Smith

Also how did they allow john smith on shore if the land was already owned by the company he was working for. The Virginia company of London was the first ever property owners of the lands of Virginia in history.
Yes I made a mistake on Smith and was coming back to correct it and you had already responded.

Incidently, it is John Rolfe and not John Wolfe.

The Virginia Company were not the owners of the land. They were in a state of war with several tribes because of the settling of that land and the building of a fort. This also includes the Mattaponi. Powhatan led the main political and military power facing the early colonists, was probably the older brother of Opechancanough, who led attacks against the English in 1622 and 1644.

If you want to push it, this is what happens when you allow illegal immigration.
 

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Yes I made a mistake on Smith and was coming back to correct it and you had already responded.

Incidently, it is John Rolfe and not John Wolfe.

The Virginia Company were not the owners of the land. They were in a state of war with several tribes because of the settling of that land and the building of a fort. This also includes the Mattaponi. Powhatan led the main political and military power facing the early colonists, was probably the older brother of Opechancanough, who led attacks against the English in 1622 and 1644.

If you want to push it, this is what happens when you allow illegal immigration.

Did the tribes ever file any property deeds or have signed treaties with other tribes and a constitution ? If not then they weren't actually land owners of the land and instead just living on it.
 

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Did the tribes ever file any property deeds or have signed treaties with other tribes and a constitution ? If not then they weren't actually land owners of the land and instead just living on it.
The real question would be: Did either of the Virginia Companies (Loudan and Plymouth Colony) file deeds, or have signed treaties or property deeds. The answer is No, they did not. They had a charter from King James 1 of England to explore the territory. Neither company filed its charter, and King James did not own the land.

The Indians of the Iroquois Confederacy, which the Mattaponi were members of, and of which Powhatan was a war and political chief of, had an understanding among themselves. Since Indian writing was not developed by Sequoyah of the Cherokee until around 1809, of course there would be no written treaty or property deeds at the time.
 

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The real question would be: Did either of the Virginia Companies (Loudan and Plymouth Colony) file deeds, or have signed treaties or property deeds. The answer is No, they did not. They had a charter from King James 1 of England to explore the territory. Neither company filed its charter, and King James did not own the land.

The Indians of the Iroquois nation, which the Mattaponi were members of, and of which Powhatan was a war and political chief of, had an understanding among themselves. Since Indian writing was not developed by Sequoyah of the Cherokee until around 1809, of course there would be no written treaty or property deeds at the time.

So the first true property owners without a question would be when the colony was setup by the British a few years later in 1624.
 

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So the first true property owners without a question would be when the colony was setup by the British a few years later in 1624.
Actually - No. The east shores were dotted with colonies and cabins that were built by Indians who later died of the plague mentioned earlier.

However, I am discussing the point with you.

Just have a happy Thanksgiving.
 

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Did the tribes ever file any property deeds or have signed treaties with other tribes and a constitution ? If not then they weren't actually land owners of the land and instead just living on it.

This one easily ranks on the top 5 of your most obnoxiously stupid comments. Can't say that you aren't a talented troll though.
 

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what if im from canada? can i still recieve your message or am i doomed to be a queer for the entirety of my existence?
 
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