TIM FERRISS- Your thoughts on this Charlatan please!

Tim Ferris is the shit man!

I got 4HWW on audio ebook and I listen to it at night from time to time.

Like MrE said.... its up to you to find the route not just copy his business model step by step.


Any ways.... I think its as much about changing your mind and the way you look at the world as it is a business book.

I actually took action and did the staring thing... almost got me into a fight...

I also did the go to a public place and lay down for 2 min.

I did this in town centre!... mid day... during lunch!

F@ck that shit man... 1 day will come I WILL MAKE IT!...

Thanks to people like Tim Ferris and Napoleon Hill, Robert Kiyosaki, J.Rhodes to name just a few.

Bro if you have not reached your goals, its not anyone's fault but your own.... dont be mad... maybe you were aiming too high at the time... Just keep working!

"Sounds like he Black Hatted you."
lol

You can never duplicate someone's success, but you can analyze what they've done and use that to find your own.

If there is anything one should get from reading that book, it's inspiration.

mungus said:

WTF? Have you actually bothered to read this thread you fucking robot?!

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MrE said:

You are the problem, not Tim Ferriss.

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QFT.

I disbelieve most of what you said. You wasted 18 months (probably a lot more than that), and are looking for someone else to blame.

Best thing someone could do for you is too kick you square in the ass. Hard. So your butthole hurts for a week.

mungus said:

You guys are right, with regards to him having an inspirational lifestyle, but it angers me that he is a fake, if any of you have read the 4 hour body you will know what I'm talking about. And I have no qualms in saying I have him to thank for alot of things and that book is definatly a great motivator but I'm surprised more people haven;t been angered by his tactics. Although, like I said before, he's an incredibly smart guy and kudos to him for that, but it really is a total scam.

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Basically "it" didn't work for you. You expect to be spoonfed? Want a guaranteed system for success?

It doesn't exist.

Tim explains stuff that works. But no one is going to hold your hand and help you fill in the blanks.

mungus said:

WTF? Have you actually bothered to read this thread you fucking robot?!

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Oh, so sorry your pity party got crashed. But if you want to have a pity party, this probably isn't the right place.

Reading Tim's stuff has improved my life. It's not HIS fault YOU suck.

SPaMx182 said:

Tim Ferris is like any other motivational writer. He can inspire, but that is pretty much it.

On another note, I sat next to him during a film at SxSw...cool guy

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You sum up what I'm saying perfectly, and have thus restored my faith in BHW despite some of the fucking fools on this site. For all you cocksuckers that completely missed my point,I've never been spoonfed in my life, I didn't copy his methods step by step. My grudge is with his simplistic view of how to achieve a 40k a month lifestyle. I didn't fail in trying to achieve what he did, what I'm saying is he is a fucking CHARLATAN! A liar. A very, very good one, and an incredible marketer.
I'm not blaming anyone for my failure. I haven't failed. I'm just saying, he's full of shit, get a grip you soggy lunged twats.

Also... with regards to 4 hour body, ask any highly trained martial artist or athlete about some of his methods and they will laugh in your fucking face, you honestly think they have somehow,during their entire lives of dedication to their sport/art have somehow missed Tim's "secret" methods to massive weight gains and huge strength increases, come on. Jesus, It's like the fucking blind leading the blind on here sometime. Plato's cave so it is.Wake up.

mungus said:

Also... with regards to 4 hour body, ask any highly trained martial artist or athlete about some of his methods and they will laugh in your fucking face, you honestly think they have somehow,during their entire lives of dedication to their sport/art have somehow missed Tim's "secret" methods to massive weight gains and huge strength increases, come on. Jesus, It's like the fucking blind leading the blind on here sometime. Plato's cave so it is.Wake up.

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Dude, you sound so bitter

I am bitter, and jealous. Simply due to the fact I didn't do what he did first. Simples, and to however neg repped me, thank you. Free speech at it's best

mungus here's the thing man.....every book you read you take what you like out of it and apply to your life. there aren't many books that should be taken exact word for word.

what you should take from 4HWW is his lifestyle choices and concept for a better life through outsourcing everything and not working like a dog for the rest of your life....as for the internet marketing section that's extremely basic stuff. Yes it's not that easy to make a product and market it on adwords. but take his concept and run with it. could you do a version of this? Yes. Could this lead you down other internet marketing ventures? Yes.

since i read that book it has sparked me to get where I am today. working 2-3 hours a day, travel, outsource, live in my dream city ect. reading that book got me away from the conventional thinking of "work your balls off 9-5, live a safe life, and hopefully if your good enough you'll retire at 65".

Timothy Ferris is A TOTAL liar. And I'm serious about it.

You will have a lot of guys defending him if you criticize Tim. But that doesn't change the truth.

If you search Google, you are gonna find some posts from people who have work with him, telling that he doesn't work 4 hours a week. He works A LOT.

The week that Tim actually works a four-hour work week will be a cold week in hell. Tim got to where he is by being an insanely hard worker. I don't know anyone who worked harder at promoting a book than he did. But the thing is, he didn't call it work.

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He didn't achieve almost anything he claims hi did. Some of them, he did. But because he lies SO hard on a lot of them (like he was a "guest lecturer" at Princeton), all the crap get's mixed with the little truths. And I'm not even mentioning that all the reviews he got from his book when it was released were fake. Everybody knows that.

He wasn't making too much money with BranQuicken. Not nearly what he was claiming. And tjis is really important.

Before starting applying his methods, I went to Google and perform a basic search. Back then, he wasn't such a big star, so you could find a lot of great info easily, like the "unsupported claims" section on wikipedia (that's gets deleted over and over for guys that are great at wikipedia's rules). I also saw a video testimonial of him BEFORE 4HWW... you have to see it.

What I'm trying to say here is that Timothy Ferriss it a great self-marketer. But his "system" does not work. And that it's what matter to us.
Every time you criticize a self help guru, you are going to get a rant from a lot of people saying "he is the real deal, I just work 4 hours per week and I make 40k". But that's a lie too.
He might be "inspiring" (if that inspire you), but so is religion. And we all know they are both a lie.

Inspiration, sometime, can be found in a turd. So you can take what the book may have give you: you don't have to ask for permission to work less, outsource, etc. That did nothing for me, cause I already knew that (and I was doing it), but not all of us start from the same place.

You lost some time. I'm sorry. But a lot of us chase the wrong star at a point in our life. It's not that terrible. Rant, relax and move on.

A big hug (a manly hug).

99lives said:

Timothy Ferris is A TOTAL liar. And I'm serious about it.

You will have a lot of guys defending him if you criticize Tim. But that doesn't change the truth.

If you search Google, you are gonna find some posts from people who have work with him, telling that he doesn't work 4 hours a week. He works A LOT.


He didn't achieve almost anything he claims hi did. Some of them, he did. But because he lies SO hard on a lot of them (like he was a ?guest lecturer? at Princeton), all the crap get's mixed with the little truths. And I'm not even mentioning that all the reviews he got from his book when it was released were fake. Everybody knows that.

He wasn't making too much money with BranQuicken. Not nearly what he was claiming. And tjis is really important.

Before starting applying his methods, I went to Google and perform a basic search. Back then, he wasn't such a big star, so you could find a lot of great info easily, like the "unsupported claims" section on wikipedia (that's gets deleted over and over for guys that are great at wikipedia's rules). I also saw a video testimonial of him BEFORE 4HWW... you have to see it.

What I'm trying to say here is that Timothy Ferriss it a great self-marketer. But his "system" does not work. And that it's what matter to us.
Every time you criticize a self help guru, you are going to get a rant from a lot of people saying "he is the real deal, I just work 4 hours per week and I make 40k". But that's a lie too.
He might be "inspiring" (if that inspire you), but so is religion. And we all know they are both a lie.

Inspiration, sometime, can be found in a turd. So you can take what the book may have give you: you don't have to ask for permission to work less, outsource, etc. That did nothing for me, cause I already knew that (and I was doing it), but not all of us start from the same place.

You lost some time. I'm sorry. But a lot of us chase the wrong star at a point in our life. It's not that terrible. Rant, relax and move on.

A big hug (a manly hug).

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NOW THIS GUY, gets my point and the dude above! Kudos to both of you, Tim ferris is awesome at what he does, but he's a complete phoney. It's not so much the IM stuff, yeah maybe he got lucky with adwords. It's all the case studies in his books man, makes me sick,I'm from a scientific background myself and the shit he spouts in four hour body is fucking DANGEROUS. Reps till failure etc, sure u can make big muscle growth but you can also tear your muscles and ligaments to pieces . Do you really want to sacrifice your body by smashing yourself full of supplement etc. Yeah of course, he put's in the odd disclaimer, but the majority of people reading this shit will skip over that in the hope that they will look like fucking arnie in 4 weeks and end up damaging their bodies. Also, re 4HWW, the IM is simple, it's like a really persuiasive self help book, yeah it's incredibly motivational but it's a complete distortion of the truth. For all the guys saying this guy's a legend etc why not spend some time reading about real legends who actually speak the truth then you might learn something. Speak to some REAL business men and women, some REAL scientists and you'll soon realise that this is absolute bollocks. Sorry to destroy your 4HWW mentality but reality is tough and mock me how you will but you'll soon realise that he is probably reading this thread and laughing. At the suckers (myself inculded) that bought into this bullshit

I don't get why these guys are so mad. He has data to support everything he did whether it's in regard to 4HWW or 4HB.

And as far as him "lying" or making it sound too easy; had he posted exactly how much work it is, and how some people aren't going to succeed, that would have stopped a ton of people from trying. Taking action is the first step, and with the "salesy" talk, he got people to take action. Obviously, not everyone is going to make 40k /m, some people will change their lifestyle completely.

When was the book written, 2007? Think of how many people have made info products in exactly the way he described and made a lot of money. Tons. If someone's content is crap, then they don't deserve the sales. The exact same method can't be applied in 2011, but with a few slight tweaks, the majority remains relevant.

And all your "friends who have been in martial arts their whole life who say those physical changes aren't possible in that short of time.." Really? Is that the argument? Just because some random guy you met 10 years ago has been working his whole life at the "dojo" downtown, doesn't make him an expert. Tim Ferriss has data to support everything. Exact diet journals, work out logs, and he tracks tons of other factors like the changing circumference of body parts, glucose levels, fat percentages, blood tests, and like 50 other things.

That's like me showing you my Paypal account, all the transactions, and even giving you numbers of my clients to call; and then you telling me what I'm doing doesn't work. There's way too much evidence to support it.

He heavily emphasizes Pareto's Law (the 80/20 rule), especially in 4HB. It's not always 80/20, sometimes it's 90/10, 95/5. or 99/1. That minimum effective dose is what counts. Doing the least amount to yield the greatest results.

He's gotten tons of people motivated and going out and taking action. Granted marketing helped him spread quickly, but the actual content is what kept it going. Instead of trying to copy his methods, or bash the book and the guy; why not try and take the ideas and understand the mindset that helped him become successful. Maybe it will help you out, and get you out doing something; so you don't need to sit behind your computer, and bash a guy you'll never meet on a forum he'll never read.

scammmmmer!

mungus said:

This guy! WTF? Is he a marketing genius or a complete scam shitter? what the fuck man, I'm so angry with this fucker, I picked up a copy of 4HWW in my local bookstore and followed it to the letter and more or less wasted 18 months of my life on this shit. The upside being, I discovered BHW in the process. But seriously, there's obviously some clique in the US with guys like this, he writes just like Neil Strauss and in his 4 hour body book he even mentions he was hanging out with Strauss, maybe u guys in the states are more savvy but is there a total community of these "lifestyle gurus" in the US? Fuck that shit man, the guy makes me sick with his bullshit. With regards to 4HWW he's basically streched an incredible piece of sales copy across 200 pages and missed out the paypal button. Why, cos motherfuckers had to pay cash in advance before even reading that shit!

Yeah I'm angry, but to be fair, props to the guy, I'm more envious to be honest but he's a fucking modern day rasputin!

What are your thoughts on this guy? Is he for real?

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Every day a new sucker!

mungus said:

This guy! WTF? Is he a marketing genius or a complete scam shitter? what the fuck man, I'm so angry with this fucker, I picked up a copy of 4HWW in my local bookstore and followed it to the letter and more or less wasted 18 months of my life on this shit. The upside being, I discovered BHW in the process. But seriously, there's obviously some clique in the US with guys like this, he writes just like Neil Strauss and in his 4 hour body book he even mentions he was hanging out with Strauss, maybe u guys in the states are more savvy but is there a total community of these "lifestyle gurus" in the US? Fuck that shit man, the guy makes me sick with his bullshit. With regards to 4HWW he's basically streched an incredible piece of sales copy across 200 pages and missed out the paypal button. Why, cos motherfuckers had to pay cash in advance before even reading that shit!

Yeah I'm angry, but to be fair, props to the guy, I'm more envious to be honest but he's a fucking modern day rasputin!

What are your thoughts on this guy? Is he for real?

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"Followed it to the letter", I've read his book once, and skimmed over it multiple times, and I'm pretty sure he explicitly states that this isn't something to be taken as an exact blueprint.

Regardless, I too got a lot out of the book. More in concept then anything else, but it was definitely worth the 8.99 I paid several times over.

Mungus @ you moron ... lets see how far your attitude will take you compared to the attitude of people that embrace the messages in a book like 4HWW.


You say his stuff dont work, but there are people that have posted in this thread that have said they have found immense success and free time and $$$ because of the book and you still say that it does not work... coz u failed at it... do you think you could be the problem and not the book.

Now go back trolling at DP where you belong.

I was the one that neg. repped you! And I might do it again for calling members c@ck suckers!

IamNRE said:

Mungus @ you moron ... lets see how far your attitude will take you compared to the attitude of people that embrace the messages in a book like 4HWW.


You say his stuff dont work, but there are people that have posted in this thread that have said they have found immense success and free time and $$$ because of the book and you still say that it does not work... coz u failed at it... do you think you could be the problem and not the book.

Now go back trolling at DP where you belong.

I was the one that neg. repped you! And I might do it again for calling members c@ck suckers!

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Jesus man, haha how many times do I need to fucking tell you. Also I wasn't calling members cocksucker, I was calling you a cocksucker , I swear to god I would love to sew up your mothers cunt.

englandrm said:

i don't get why these guys are so mad. He has data to support everything he did whether it's in regard to 4hww or 4hb.

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orly?

Lol