thread automatically removed from downloads without virustotal

[stinky_boy]

I think there should be a hard rule for a virustotal from the op. Too many threads start out hxxp://rapidshare/bla/goodprogram.rar, get several thanks and 3 or 4 post down announces multiple viruses. We need a 'thank you for the virus' button that causes the ops computer to melt down or something...

 

[aliskorn]

I think there is only so much the staff can do. This is not a kindergarten. This is a blackhat webmasters forum. People should know that it`s not safe to download executables. There`s a rule already that states no one is allowed to post software without its virus total report : http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...27-new-rule-download-posters-please-read.html

 

[the_demon]

The staff nor anybody else is responsible for your downloads. You yourself should be scanning anything you download and checking for viruses on your own. You cannot expect other people to take the time to check. Not to mention with those online virus scanners what's to prevent the OP from scanning a clean file to get the report url and then uploading a trojan infected version... NOTHING. In other words SYOF - scan your own files.

... Of course it is always nice when you report back and leave a comment if you find the file infected but, each person who downloads should be checking on their own regardless fo what other people say. Also, the more people who scan with a variation of anti-virus, spywar, etc. and report the better as we are more likely to find infected files.

... If you are really concerned setup up a virtual pc and run the cracked program from within. This should in theory eliminate any chance of you getting viruses on your real system.

 

[stinky_boy]

good point and there's no need to pamper as kindergartners, just have a ban for those that break the rules. you're right exe's can be dangerous so anything that possibly decreases the risk of infection is certainly welcome, at least by me.

 

[stinky_boy]

The staff nor anybody else is responsible for your downloads. You yourself should be scanning anything you download and checking for viruses on your own. You cannot expect other people to take the time to check. Not to mention with those online virus scanners what's to prevent the OP from scanning a clean file to get the report url and then uploading a trojan infected version... NOTHING. In otherwords SYOF - scan your own files.

It does help to have a virus scan and your right it's not staffs job to pamper it's users. That's the last thing that should happen on a board like this, but it would be a great idea for a ban if someone breaks the rules. And it's a good point that they are using those online virus scanners. When someone finds a virus in one of those post, they get a 'thankyou' for a reason. It's because people appreciate it, period, as I also do. If someone wants to ignore virustotals and they prefer to scan the virus on there desktop, so be it and it's their choice, and hey, I respect that. I simply prefer having virustotals in the post. It's a safe, smart move.

 

[dhamma_man]

Hi all!

I agree with the demon. It really is up to each of us to do what we can to protect ourselves. I found out about VirusTotal about 4 months ago, and everything, everything, I download goes thru that little baby before I do anything with it.


An alternative to removing a thread is to run the file through VirusTotal yourself and post the results in the same thread. This would show the community that you're looking out for them and would earn you a thanks or two.

The problem with removing a thread is that its difficult enough sometimes to get a download you're looking for, and removing access to one for a "technical" violation that is easily remedied seems like overkill.

You can also "punish" the person posting without running it through VirusTotal by giving a negative rep. That would probably get their attention quicker than simply deleting the thread.

Just my $.02 worth.

Cheers!

 

[stinky_boy]

dhamma, your idea is really great and if everyone did that with even a 30-40 percent consistency, there would be no need for this post to begin with. I just really love this forum and think that anything that decreases the quality to it's users should not be compromised.

 

[forgot]

What I believe that if someone cracks some software then he must be intelligent enough to put undetectable virus in the crack...In other words, almost all cracks have some virus/adware or something that will make the cracker some money....

 

[oxonbeef]

Virustotal scans prove nothing. There are many ways to beat virustotal scans with a FUD
crypter or a little hex editing and who's to say someone hasn't scanned a .exe and binded
it to some malware afterwards. My advice to anyone who downloads from non verified sources does so in VMware or sandboxie and checks the program when running it. It's not
too hard to see if it drops any suspicious .dlls or try's to connect to an ip address.

 

[forgot]

Virustotal scans prove nothing. There are many ways to beat virustotal scans with a FUD
crypter or a little hex editing and who's to say someone hasn't scanned a .exe and binded
it to some malware afterwards. My advice to anyone who downloads from non verified sources does so in VMware or sandboxie and checks the program when running it. It's not
too hard to see if it drops any suspicious .dlls or try's to connect to an ip address.

Even if you try in VMWare and if VMWare use your network adapter, i mean if you use internet in vmware then there are ways that the virus can get in to your main PC Harddisk and infect it....

 

[aliskorn]

What I believe that if someone cracks some software then he must be intelligent enough to put undetectable virus in the crack...In other words, almost all cracks have some virus/adware or something that will make the cracker some money....

You clearly didn`t crack any program or don`t know how to crack one. It is very easy to crack "marketing software" like se nu*ke because the "developers" is usually just one developer. He has to take care of the software functionality + security. Their security is a joke + almost any joker can bypass them. But to fool Kaspersky who has a team of highly dedicated east european coders it takes much more than a freaking joker.

Now, one who can crack adobe cs4 is a slightly different matter , because he`s probably working for kaspersky

 

[forgot]

You clearly didn`t crack any program or don`t know how to crack one. It is very easy to crack "marketing software" like se nu*ke because the "developers" is usually just one developer. He has to take care of the software functionality + security. Their security is a joke + almost any joker can bypass them. But to fool Kaspersky who has a team of highly dedicated east european coders it takes much more than a freaking joker.

Now, one who can crack adobe cs4 is a slightly different matter , because he`s probably working for kaspersky

Thanks....

So, what do you think, small crackers crack for nothing?

Well, Yes, I am not the cracker and also dont know how to crack.

Regards

 

[aliskorn]

Thanks....

So, what do you think, small crackers crack for nothing?

Well, Yes, I am not the cracker and also dont know how to crack.

Regards

Well, the greatest cracking groups NEVER put any viruses in their releases. They are not doing this for the money. Even if they were, who uses cracked software/games ? Usually, the ones who don`t have any money (again, I say usually) and you can`t make money infecting poor people computers. This big groups definitely have the skill, but they don`t have the will to infect people`s computers.

On the other hand there are small time crackers who might have the intention to infect people. Especially when they crack "marketing" software. Why? because people who use these kind of software, usually have money in their paypal and use their cc online often. Now, this little groups have the intention but they don`t have the skill. So their spyware/malware can bypass mcaffee or norton antivirus (these are usually the antiviruses that rich, unsuspecting americans use) but not the more serious firewalls/anti-viruses.