This will shock you - 2 'Gurus' caught on tape!

Is anyone really surprised?

The "Gurus" launch products weekly saying how you can make $400,000 per month and their product is only like $97.

It defies logic.

Why would they sell a method earning them such incredible amounts of money for so cheap?

Because:

A)Their method doesn't work, and it's a lie

B)Their method is based on theoretical numbers (Ex. They make $200 in one day and that's it, then say you can make $6,000 per month, $200 x 30 days, and then they say scale it up and have 10 such sites, so you make $60,000 per month)

C)Their method is saturated, and they no longer use it because it no longer works or makes money

The ones making the real money are the ones sharing information for free because they know at the end of the day it's all about sharing and giving back to humanity in general.
 
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I wouldnt even call that black hat, honestly it wasnt that shocking or interesting for that matter. The person who made the video wants people to report them to the FTC, what a joke. Big name rappers work with other big name rappers, big name politicians support other ones, business owners consult other business owners, whoopty frickin doo...
 
bwahahaha, classic.

If those heavy-breathing geeky weirdos can pull off multi-million dollar launches then fair play to them, the only people to blame are the idiots who haven't worked out that people who make loads of money online wouldn't be selling the methods to others, unless that was their whole business model.

Fools and their money are easily parted.
 
I **gree lol, if you're dumb enough to p**y 2.5k for ** product th**n you deserve to get sc**mmed... lol
 
If anything, the real money making gold is in their methods to drain their customers of money. Study those launches and how they are ran (despite what PLF or Mass Control tells you). As a marketer, I read their sales copy, email copy, watch their videos and see how they use their persuasive techniques. Best thing of all, it's free. So do exactly what they ask you to do up to the point to where you need to put in a credit card and stop. Although you would be missing some valuable marketing after you've paid too, like upsells and continuity programs.
 
If anything, the real money making gold is in their methods to drain their customers of money. Study those launches and how they are ran (despite what PLF or Mass Control tells you). As a marketer, I read their sales copy, email copy, watch their videos and see how they use their persuasive techniques. Best thing of all, it's free. So do exactly what they ask you to do up to the point to where you need to put in a credit card and stop. Although you would be missing some valuable marketing after you've paid too, like upsells and continuity programs.

I don't care that they do this at all though. It's a free country, if it works, do it.
 
If anything, the real money making gold is in their methods to drain their customers of money. Study those launches and how they are ran (despite what PLF or Mass Control tells you). As a marketer, I read their sales copy, email copy, watch their videos and see how they use their persuasive techniques. Best thing of all, it's free. So do exactly what they ask you to do up to the point to where you need to put in a credit card and stop. Although you would be missing some valuable marketing after you've paid too, like upsells and continuity programs.

I don't care that they do this at all though. It's a free country, if it works, do it.
 
MattBlethen said:
If anything, the real money making gold is in their methods to drain their customers of money. Study those launches and how they are ran (despite what PLF or Mass Control tells you). As a marketer, I read their sales copy, email copy, watch their videos and see how they use their persuasive techniques. Best thing of all, it's free. So do exactly what they ask you to do up to the point to where you need to put in a credit card and stop. Although you would be missing some valuable marketing after you've paid too, like upsells and continuity programs.

I don't care that they do this at all though. It's a free country, if it works, do it.
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it may be a free country but what they're doing is damn near if not IS a RICO case in the making.
 
The you tube uploader amazinglienow has some other interesting videos on his channel revealing similar disception-laden, and illusion-making hype concepts in the guru industry that are worth checking out. Some of the admissions by Frank Kern are particularing revealing.
 
Speaking of gurus, has anyone else noticed this?



Ladies and Gentlemen,

Elvis has left the building.................

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http://www.masscontrolsite.com/

Frank Kern Has Retired From Teaching Internet Marketing And Now Only Accepts Private Clients And Platinum Members
 
Yep, I agree with the rest, if you're making big bucks with a system why would you bother to sell your secret to anyone? How could you have the time?
 
Yeah, nothing there is surprising but it's always interesting to listen to a conversation between crooks in our industry.

A lot of people like to throw out the old cliche of "yeah, but hey they're making money, so learn from them".

Not me, I personally have zero respect on any level for these kind of clowns. IMO there's much better ways to make a solid living in IM than living your life as a lie.
 
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It's great to see so many differing views, whether you are for making money at all costs or someone who would rather promote a solid product which actually delivers making less in the process.

One thing that bothers me is that i have not seen these 'Gurus' use thier methods/tools to make money in any niche outside of the MM niche. They seem to promote IM products exclusively, marketing to us the suckers who keep them in business.

Take Kajabi for example, promoted as a push button solution but judging by early feedback from people who are trying it out it's no-where near as described.
Quoting Andy Jenkins "Your product does not have to be perfect, just good enough" well apparently Kajabi is not even 'good enough' at this stage, may be in the future but not yet.

PS! i have not tried the product myself, only relaying what others who have are saying.
 
Yep I saw the video over at another forum and was amazed at how much they were charging for an info product but people buy it so why not?
 
mmm.. i fail to see the difference between these guys and, say, any acai merchant or any other magic diet pill merchant :D
 
teeniegenie said:
The saltydroid has been discussed at length on BHW recently.

See below:

HTML: 
http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/blackhat-lounge/242331-saltydroid-info-accurate-jealous.html

HTML: 
http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/blackhat-lounge/241825-salty-droid-best-i-love-guy.html
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and the videos links are in this thread also
Code: 
http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/member-downloads/244244-get-kajabi-powerful-marketing-software-funny-name-videos-reports.html
 
heh! heh! not really a shock since the business is lousy with scammers and fraud. every sales letter looks 100% identical, so you know there are only a handful of 'experts' selling this crud.
 
Why are so many memebrs always discussing these clowns? There is nothing schocking in the 'video', I doubt anyone in his right mind would believe said gurus can make even a 1000 in a month.
 
Monrox said:
Why are so many members always discussing these clowns? There is nothing shocking in the 'video', I doubt anyone in his right mind would believe said gurus can make even a 1000 in a month.
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not by using the trix they sell, rather by running endless scams. :eek:
 
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