so yes, I just experimented. what tools I used an automatic directory link submitor. web / forum. OK here it is I used my tool which I found, I built 150 links to ONE forum topic, not the entire domain just the thread, one post - the keyword linked in there is highly searched 501k globely. within seconds I had over 71 ISP/search/index bots on my forum for that one keyword. now if I keep constantly building links to ONE forum topic, you think they'll all be active.. and could generate good daily traffic?