This Pervert MUST Be Found!

remmy1uk said:

Been offered 100g to make a video is way different to a television show, you can get a way with alot when it comes to movie as we know it aint real.

But television show says different. It might be okay in the 80s, but sure as hell it aint now.

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What is the difference? Starring in a movie makes it ok, but a Game Show makes it evil?

Do you think the way a television show host acts on TV is the way he acts in his every day life?

How can you blame the HOST for YOU jumping to conclusions?

And how are movies "not real"?

Are you not really kissing someone because its in a movie?
Would you not get aroused from your sex scene involving Halle Berry?
Do you think they use a Green Screen to place naked adults in the same room as children?

Somehow, I couldn't watch it. Was that allowed?

no4h~ said:

You are being ridiculous, period. I was going to keep quiet in this thread because my views contrast poorly with the majority of the repliers and I know debating this topic isn't going to somehow change any of our opinions on the topic... but I couldn't sit back and just let you go on and on about these 'random little girls' you keep bringing up... as if for some reason these girls weren't part of a fucking television show 20 some-odd years ago.

Give it a break dude, really. These 'random little girls' you keep referring to were contestants on a fucking television show. There wasn't anything sexual even implied, and if the parents suspected anything suspicious, they probably would have avoided bringing their children to the airings of the show, or would have avoided them from becoming a contestant.

It's insane how the majority of you twats are attacking a fucking host of a show 20-25 years ago. It's disgusting how many of you are making such horrible claims about this man whom you know nothing about. You people dwell and become so incredibly angry (pitchforks, and all...) when you see stories like this, or when you read the newspaper to see that somebody was charged with looking at CP (but hadn't actually done anything to anybody) instead of actually concerning yourselves with somebody who is actually causing somebody harm, physical or mental damage. Attack the individuals that's harming children, not comically kissing them during a fucking television show.



Learn how to fucking debate.

You said you were done 3 times, and yet you continue to reply with shit like 'omg i said i waz done. here's another iteration of my point~~`!1'.

You can't make a point, and then not expect a fucking rebuttal.

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Read my comment above and you will see why I rightfully so was referring to them as RANDOM. The airing of the show more than likely took place over one day of airing and how would the parents have suspected or known that he was going to randomly attempt to kiss their children during the airing of the show?

You're right, I know nothing about this man. But nor do you and I'm going off what is in front of me and what I see. If you watch this video and don't see this guy as a pervert, then there's really nothing I can do or say to change your mind, because that's the way you're wired, just like KickFlip. Don't call us "twats" for having a valid opinion about the video we were presented with.

"when you see stories like this, or when you read the newspaper to see that somebody was charged with looking at CP (but hadn't actually done anything to anybody) instead of actually concerning yourselves with somebody who is actually causing somebody harm, physical or mental damage. Attack the individuals that's harming children, not comically kissing them during a fucking television show."

Wait, so are you saying that you condone Child Porn? I sure hope not, although it would make sense why you don't think this guy is a pervert and you don't think viewing child porn is wrong. Now let me get something straight, before you think I'm giving low blows or manipulating what you said. I absolutely think that the recording or taking pictures of children for pornography purposes is wrong, but if they can not find the people who are doing this, the next best thing is to go after the people who are viewing it, which they do. If it was so ridiculous for people to get in trouble for viewing child porn, why wouldn't more people fight for their right to be able to do it? Maybe because it's not accepted in society? Well, it's not accepted for a good reason, it's sick. Maybe I misinterpreted your words, but to me, it sure seems like you don't understand why it's wrong to view child porn.

I actually said I was done once, you might want to re-read what you quoted, because I was not saying I was done there, I was explaining why earlier I said I was done. Don't put words in my mouth with your other quote that was not from me. You and KickFlip think this is not perverted, when everyone else does. If you view this video and don't see it, that's your own problem, but it doesn't make sense to me. I know how to debate, but I have read multiple threads just like this one where KickFlip comes in and will argue for hours. I like to make money, I'm not here to type a thousand words to prove my point to hard headed people backing a pervert, but I ended up wasting my time trying to prove my point and getting no where, that's why I said I was done.

Mods, Please close this thread.

It's getting out of hand.

Kickflip said:

What is the difference? Starring in a movie makes it ok, but a Game Show makes it evil?

Do you think the way a television show host acts on TV is the way he acts in his every day life?

How can you blame the HOST for YOU jumping to conclusions?

And how are movies "not real"?

Are you not really kissing someone because its in a movie?
Would you not get aroused from your sex scene involving Halle Berry?
Do you think they use a Green Screen to place naked adults in the same room as children?

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In a movie, there is a script that the actor(s)/actresses read and agree to and sign legal documents and consent forms which both parties agree to what is done in the movie.

On a game show, thousands of people sign up, they choose random people and you show up and it is not scripted. Do you think the parents came to the game show to film and knew that the game show host was going to attempt to kiss their children? Would you accept that and let your child be on a show, knowing that, that was going to happen? No one in their right mind would.

I don't think the producers told him to try to kiss these little girls and with that said, I think that these actions could very well be how he acts in real life also.

Another TERRIBLE comparison. You just asked if we would get aroused by a Halle Barry sex scene compared to a talk show host kissing little girls... WOW
I absolutely think they use green screens to put naked adults in the same room as children as often as they can.

mungus said:

Gadd. It's like reading the daily fucking mail, listen to some of you, yeah the guy's a creep but if there's no actual proof that he FUCKS kids then you have to bare in mind this guys life could have been completely ruined by this shit. We live in the west where supposedly people are innocent until proven guilty and folk aren't tried by internet or media , not some tin pot african country where someone kisses a kid and get's their fucking balls cut off. There's a million presenters out there who acted like this back in the day, this is honestly a fucking piss take, grow up.

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dude, he's kissing little kids on the mouth on TV, its really weird. sorry, but he deserved some fucking scrutiny

Virus1 said:

Mods, Please close this thread.

It's getting out of hand.

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I completely agree.

Ron Paul 2012, he'll put an end to this kissing madness.

Kickflip said:

Dictionary fail. There is no way you can refer to the contestant as being random. The families would have applied in person, in a casting call, and been carefully selected by a group of individuals, which may or may not have included the host. The pre-selection process which is needed to qualify contestants to be part of the show, and them being part of the show at all, means that they are in fact not random.

You using the word random to mean not having any family relation to them, is completely out of line. The reason you used the word random, was to further portray him as a sexual deviant who has no control over himself and needs to release his frustrations on any young girl he sees.

The word pervert in this case has to mean one of two possible things. Either someone who deviates from what would be considered normal and acceptable behavior, or someone getting sexual gratification from actions which would be considered socially abnormal. We have absolutely no evidence of him getting sexual gratification from his actions, and based on the fact that for 4 years and hundreds of episodes families continued to sign up, and millions of people watched the show over that time, and the broadcasting council didn't shut him down, we have to assume him actions weren't that abnormal or unacceptable for his time and place where it took place.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1QI4P0YqtM

Brainstorming said:

In a movie, there is a script that the actor(s)/actresses read and agree to and sign legal documents and consent forms which both parties agree to what is done in the movie.

On a game show, thousands of people sign up, they choose random people and you show up and it is not scripted. Do you think the parents came to the game show to film and knew that the game show host was going to attempt to kiss their children? Would you accept that and let your child be on a show, knowing that, that was going to happen? No one in their right mind would.

I don't think the producers told him to try to kiss these little girls and with that said, I think that these actions could very well be how he acts in real life also.

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You are just naive and uneducated when it comes to how Television shows are filmed then. There are most certainly legal documents signed, and in a case like this show involving families, they would have been pre-screened and selected weeks before the actual filming of their episode took place.

Most of what the host does and says is scripted, and a lot of the time, the contestants are given an idea of what the questions will be before hand, and they are coached on the type of answers they should give. I do think that many parents would be aware the host MAY kiss their child, and it isn't a concern for them, because they know it wont harm their child.

Once again, for you to say nobody in their right mind would accept that, means that you believe EVERY contestant (1000+ contestants) were all completely ignorant and never ever watched the show themselves.

wth this is classic C/M

Kickflip said:

Dictionary fail. There is no way you can refer to the contestant as being random. The families would have applied in person, in a casting call, and been carefully selected by a group of individuals, which may or may not have included the host. The pre-selection process which is needed to qualify contestants to be part of the show, and them being part of the show at all, means that they are in fact not random.

You using the word random to mean not having any family relation to them, is completely out of line. The reason you used the word random, was to further portray him as a sexual deviant who has no control over himself and needs to release his frustrations on any young girl he sees.

The word pervert in this case has to mean one of two possible things. Either someone who deviates from what would be considered normal and acceptable behavior, or someone getting sexual gratification from actions which would be considered socially abnormal. We have absolutely no evidence of him getting sexual gratification from his actions, and based on the fact that for 4 years and hundreds of episodes families continued to sign up, and millions of people watched the show over that time, and the broadcasting council didn't shut him down, we have to assume him actions weren't that abnormal or unacceptable for his time and place where it took place.

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Typical response from you. Take the little things that are in your opinion and not based on facts and then comment on them, leaving out the valid points made.

Answer one thing for me:
Do you watch this video and think that there is any way or pre-written agreement that makes the hosts actions acceptable?

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You are just naive and uneducated when it comes to how Television shows are filmed then. There are most certainly legal documents signed, and in a case like this show involving families, they would have been pre-screened and selected weeks before the actual filming of their episode took place.

Most of what the host does and says is scripted, and a lot of the time, the contestants are given an idea of what the questions will be before hand, and they are coached on the type of answers they should give. I do think that many parents would be aware the host MAY kiss their child, and it isn't a concern for them, because they know it wont harm their child.

Once again, for you to say nobody in their right mind would accept that, means that you believe EVERY contestant (1000+ contestants) were all completely ignorant and never ever watched the show themselves.

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All that means, is that the parents are just as guilty for enabling.

Brainstorming said:

The airing of the show more than likely took place over one day of airing and how would the parents have suspected or known that he was going to randomly attempt to kiss their children during the airing of the show?

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Firstly, before trying to debate such a topic, you should probably research the topic you're debating on. The kissing happened on a number of episodes which tells me that the parents knew what was going on, and saw nothing wrong with it, as it wasn't meant to be sexual. 'Random attempt' is different then random girls. You made it sound like he was out kissing girls in the middle of the street, and forcing himself on them with some malicious intent.

Brainstorming said:

You're right, I know nothing about this man. But nor do you and I'm going off what is in front of me and what I see. If you watch this video and don't see this guy as a pervert, then there's really nothing I can do or say to change your mind, because that's the way you're wired, just like KickFlip. Don't call us "twats" for having a valid opinion about the video we were presented with

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So wait, you're allowed to pass judgement on somebody you don't know (with rather malicious claims like he was a pedophile?), but I'm unable to pass judgement on you because I think you're being disillusion and your debating points are nothing but reiterations of each other...? Attaboy with the contradictions~ .

Brainstorming said:

Wait, so are you saying that you condone Child Porn? I sure hope not, although it would make sense why you don't think this guy is a pervert and you don't think viewing child porn is wrong. Now let me get something straight, before you think I'm giving low blows or manipulating what you said. I absolutely think that the recording or taking pictures of children for pornography purposes is wrong, but if they can not find the people who are doing this, the next best thing is to go after the people who are viewing it, which they do. If it was so ridiculous for people to get in trouble for viewing child porn, why wouldn't more people fight for their right to be able to do it? Maybe because it's not accepted in society? Well, it's not accepted for a good reason, it's sick. Maybe I misinterpreted your words, but to me, it sure seems like you don't understand why it's wrong to view child porn.

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No, I don't support child porn. That being said, my original post was regarding the reaction of a lot of people when the topic comes up. Everyone gets so heated and begins making remarks that they would hurt the individual for looking. I think the actual act of making the porn is what should be focused on, and prosecuted against. I don't think looking at it does anybody any physical or mental harm, and it's preventing the individual(s) in some cases to not act out on their attraction. You can't negate someones attraction to something just because your morals oppose to it. Pedophilia is no different then any of your other common attractions. It's a hardwired attraction, not something that you control. Just the same how people prefer short/tall, blonde/red-head, gay/straight.

Comparing it to bestiality, as bestiality is illegal in this country. Isn't it funny how the law doesn't prosecute to those who look at bestiality, but does prosecute against those who are caught doing it. You never hear about anybody being caught with bestiality on their computers, arrested and humiliated against because of their attraction.

Food for thought, I suppose.

Kickflip said:

You are just naive and uneducated when it comes to how Television shows are filmed then. There are most certainly legal documents signed, and in a case like this show involving families, they would have been pre-screened and selected weeks before the actual filming of their episode took place.

Most of what the host does and says is scripted, and a lot of the time, the contestants are given an idea of what the questions will be before hand, and they are coached on the type of answers they should give. I do think that many parents would be aware the host MAY kiss their child, and it isn't a concern for them, because they know it wont harm their child.

Once again, for you to say nobody in their right mind would accept that, means that you believe EVERY contestant (1000+ contestants) were all completely ignorant and never ever watched the show themselves.

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Have you watched TV before? There are so many people who will go on any television show regardless of what it is, just to be on TV.

The parents were aware that the host would kiss their kids? You honestly believe that? Did you not see how the children reacted when the host kissed or attempted to kiss them? What parent would want to put their child into a situation where they felt uncomfortable with a man they barely knew attempting to kiss them?

rakoom2002 said:

There is a huge epidemic of pedophilia amongst the child star community exactly because of this thought process. ?Well, they?re famous, they wont do anything wrong?.

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There's a huge epidemic? Really? So 10's of thousands of celebrities are pedos? I must have been living in a different reality, since I haven't heard anything about this "huge epidemic".

I can think of 1 celeb off the top of my head who's a charged pedophile.

IMO the only "huge epidemic" is one of paranoia where everyone thinks that any male who even looks at a little girl is a pedo and consequently we have a society where people are afraid to just be normal and do normal things for fear of getting "tortured" and "fed to the pigs" "mafia style".

What on earth has the world come to when it's ok for people here to talk about feeding old men to pigs and trying to be like the mafia? Do any of you people have any REAL idea what the mafia are like? It's beyond sick, beyond what you see on the TV.

So man who gives little girls an innocent peck and a hug = torture him
Gangsters who murder, rape, steal = worship them and try to be like them
mafia = Try to be like them because they're cool

Nice. Glad to see priorities are so straight.

To sum up this is nothing more than an witch hunt. As kickflip said this is 400+ episodes condensed into 5 minutes to make it seem like the guy is a perv.

The media has shown us that with with some clever editing you can discredit anyone, even the most honest of people.

From what I have seen in that video I think it is extremely creepy. I'm not sure what exactly these parents were thinking, but probably the same thing that the parents who enter their kids into those child beauty pageants think. That Toddlers & Tiaras show has been on for like 5 seasons so wtf...

However this is getting more attention that it deserves. People are so enraged by this video of a 20+ year old obscure game show, but yet they don't post videos/start threads about the millions and millions of children who are suffering from horrible abuse and neglect all over the world TODAY.

Did you know that in 2007 the Indian Government published the results on a study that involved over 12,000 children and that shockingly over 50% have faced some kind of sexual abuse, and 20% of them severe abuse?

Did you know in Yemen, more than a quarter of girls are married before the age of 15?

Did you know that between 250,000 to 500,000 children live as prostitutes in Brazil?

Did you know that over well 4000 priests and deacons in the US have had allegations of sexual abuse made against them?

All of it is disgusting and all of it should be condemned. Where are the viral vidoes?! Where is the outrage?!

Most people just go for the sensational crap and probably never even think about the real godawful shit that happens to kids ALL THE TIME.