This is why you don't buy a macbook

Can feel your pain. The thickness has always been my primary complaint. Yes it looks cool, but at what cost? Is thinkness more important, or is heat dissipation more important? I bet you will get different answers if you ask different people. That's the problem with mac fanboys. :p

They went into the thickness obsession way before they had the hardware to do so, since switching to ARM they probably will be able to have much less thermal throttling due to lower TDP processors.
 
Bought a Macbook pro in 2012. It is my main computer today. Never reinstalled the OS, never had a virus, never had to upgrade hardware. I use it for marketing stuff only. No games or fancy software besides Photoshop or Office.

I used PCs since 1991 and dropped them in 2003. Embraced Mac since.

My main happiness with macs: I don't have to spend time dealing with the OS. Just focus on my job.

Altough, I keep on hearing that new Macs are quite bad ...
 
Well, the point I was trying to make; is the fact that you never know what comes with Mac (or Windows for that matter). You think it's secure, but it might not actually be secure. ;)
That's true.
 
Bought a Macbook pro in 2012. It is my main computer today. Never reinstalled the OS, never had a virus, never had to upgrade hardware. I use it for marketing stuff only. No games or fancy software besides Photoshop or Office.

I used PCs since 1991 and dropped them in 2003. Embraced Mac since.

My main happiness with macs: I don't have to spend time dealing with the OS. Just focus on my job.

Altough, I keep on hearing that new Macs are quite bad ...

I share you sentiment with not having to deal with the OS. Too many times in the past I have been burned with Ubuntu updates breaking my system. I cringed every time going from 6 to 8, 8 to 10, and 10 to 12 - what a pile of shit that OS is. My damn forward and back buttons on my Logitech G700 required me creating a config file to customize the buttons.

macOS to me feels like a 1,000 times polished linux distro without the headaches. I love how each app has it's own dependencies so you don't need to worry about library conflicts. Uninstall an app, just delete the single file! Still desire command line access? Open the terminal and type away. The Spotlight Search finds me everything I need instantly. Updates are flawless. All of your opened apps and files are ready for you whenever you reboot, even after an update. I don't remember the last time I had to force quit an app or even reboot my mac.

Yes, you over pay for the hardware inside of a mac, but you are purchasing more than just the hardware, you are getting their ecosystem which makes my life easier because I can focus on being productive and less time "tinkering" with shit. As I was typing this I was able to answer a phone call without having to touch my phone and only click 1 button. It makes my life easier with minimal effort and that's something that can't be said for Linux, Windows, or even Google.

I wonder how many people bash Apple and never truly used their products outside of an Apple store?
 
I share you sentiment with not having to deal with the OS. Too many times in the past I have been burned with Ubuntu updates breaking my system. I cringed every time going from 6 to 8, 8 to 10, and 10 to 12 - what a pile of shit that OS is. My damn forward and back buttons on my Logitech G700 required me creating a config file to customize the buttons.

macOS to me feels like a 1,000 times polished linux distro without the headaches. I love how each app has it's own dependencies so you don't need to worry about library conflicts. Uninstall an app, just delete the single file! Still desire command line access? Open the terminal and type away. The Spotlight Search finds me everything I need instantly. Updates are flawless. All of your opened apps and files are ready for you whenever you reboot, even after an update. I don't remember the last time I had to force quit an app or even reboot my mac.

Yes, you over pay for the hardware inside of a mac, but you are purchasing more than just the hardware, you are getting their ecosystem which makes my life easier because I can focus on being productive and less time "tinkering" with shit. As I was typing this I was able to answer a phone call without having to touch my phone and only click 1 button. It makes my life easier with minimal effort and that's something that can't be said for Linux, Windows, or even Google.

I wonder how many people bash Apple and never truly used their products outside of an Apple store?

Seriously, never had a single problem like you mentioned with ubuntu starting from 14.x, or in Windows starting from 8.1.x. You probably gave up too soon lol. As for dependency management, Ubuntu also has something called "snap" now. I never tried customizing my laptop's buttons though. Not sure why anyone would do that. :p
 
Seriously, never had a single problem like you mentioned with ubuntu starting from 14.x, or in Windows starting from 8.1.x. You probably gave up too soon lol.

I actually started with Ubuntu 4, then installed 6 and did every LTS update from 6-12, that's 6 years of sticking with it! I might of even gone up to 14, but I can't remember. Whatever the last LTS I went to my internet stopped working because the network adapter could no longer be found.

Coming from windows 3.1 I grew numb to the alt-ctrl-deletes, blue screens of death, and the slowing down of my computers over time. From a developers perspective though, developing on Windows feels clunky and down right awful which is why I migrated to Ubuntu to begin with. With macOS I feel like I get the best of Windows and Linux combined into one.

As for dependency management, Ubuntu also has something called "snap" now.

Glad to see Ubuntu trying to catch up.

I never tried customizing my laptop's buttons though. Not sure why anyone would do that. :p

Not sure why anyone would want to do that either. In order for me to use the forward and back buttons on my mouse in Ubuntu or even Linux Mint I need to setup a config file that maps those buttons to the action I want...


@Gogol I will convert you to love JavaScript and Apple. Stay tuned for a new journey thread...
 
@Gogol I will convert you to love JavaScript and Apple. Stay tuned for a new journey thread...
I will wait for that! I already love JS by the way. It earns me food. ;)
 
Programming wise I love my Macbook Pro. I thought about getting a gaming laptop to match both my programming and gaming needs but meh, OS wise MacOS is far better for programming than Windows and it also gives me better portability.

I hate it too when the fans start kicking only if the CPU has like 90 degrees already and it seems to go fast to 100 (105 being the T minus temperature before it breaks and enters emergency shutdown) but well, this is it. No other OS that can do what MacOS is doing having the same smoothness.
 
macs are targeted to less tech savvy people who still want a good experience with their computer (could even be a kickass designer who thinks he is better than an asm developer coz he has a mac). I guess you could use macs that way.. hmm..
I think they're designed for people who don't want to look poor :D


How is MacOS better than Windows for programming ?
Correct me if I'm wrong but Windows doesn't have native software to even SSH? You have to download PuTTY or something? Could be wrong
 
I think they're designed for people who don't want to look poor :D



Correct me if I'm wrong but Windows doesn't have native software to even SSH? You have to download PuTTY or something? Could be wrong

Windows 10 has native ssh
 
Correct me if I'm wrong but Windows doesn't have native software to even SSH? You have to download PuTTY or something? Could be wrong

I always used puTTY but it seems that win 10 does have ssh lol. I mostly use ubuntu for development these days anyway.
 
Macs don't even have any RGB. Pathetic.
Ok this one.. is a stupid feature imho. I dunno why on earth they even do it. It just sucks more power out of your power supply. Why would you need it? Just use a led bulb on the ceiling lol.
 
Ok this one.. is a stupid feature imho. I dunno why on earth they even do it. It just sucks more power out of your power supply. Why would you need it? Just use a led bulb on the ceiling lol.

To entertain all the 13-year-old kids with ADHD of course! ;)
 
I wish Apple didn't turn its back on enterprise, it would be nice to have 10 Gigabit Ethernet port on a mac laptop as well as a really nice GPU such as the RTX Quadro 5000 with 16GB of vram rather than the crappy AMD Vega.
 
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