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This is why I hate CPA

Discussion in 'CPA' started by NoGameNoLife, Nov 22, 2015.

  1. NoGameNoLife

    NoGameNoLife Regular Member

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    So to start this of,small percentage of my traffic is coming from Singapore,it converted really bad but I didn't thought much of it until the network started promoting new offer:
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    (31 clicks,4 lead new offer was performing good,even though it was identical to those other offers)

    To top this off network for some reason disabled the offer and I'm left with those advertisers that are shaving me bald:
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    So what I got from this:
    *All those SG offers are pretty much identical(Get Ipad get Galaxy S6 so if wouldn't make sense that perfomance varies that much)
    *The same thing could be happening in other countries offers too,you have to play cat and mouse game and lose traffic for these offers
    However some countries have only one or two offers,advertisers there pretty much can do whatever they want,so why do networks not create competition in there and instead disable offers?
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    My SG alltime:
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    SG stats this month when offer that wasn't shaving was enabled:
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    I'm not hating the network or crying over that the offer that was performing good for me was disabled

    What I'm saying is that it's simply unnatural for offer performing that well which is pretty much identical unless other offers are shaving and same thing could be happening in other countries offers too
     
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  2. 93chandu

    93chandu Power Member

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    Lol!!! 50-60 clicks and you start blaming the offers and networks!!! Try sending substantial traffic and then see
     
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  3. A7strohhut

    A7strohhut Registered Member

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    lol :') are u serious? Get traffic - this is nothing..you cannot say you hate CPA if you havent really worked with it...
     
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  4. NoGameNoLife

    NoGameNoLife Regular Member

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    This is only my SG traffic and it's not 60 clicks (150 Desktop clicks + 60 Mobile Clicks=0$) THEN 31clicks= 4leads=21$,see the diference?
     
  5. Aatrox

    Aatrox Supreme Member

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    Network probably didn't disable the offer just because of you. There is daily limits, you also need to know for how long that offer was there, maybe the advertiser wasn't happy and now it's disabled... Damn man, if you don't like the network, switch it and try some other.
     
  6. Mummy

    Mummy BANNED BANNED

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    What network is that?
     
  7. NoGameNoLife

    NoGameNoLife Regular Member

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    What?Why would I think that network would disable offer just for me,of course there are some reason why the network disabled the offer
    I'm not hating the network or crying over that the offer that was performing good for me was disabled

    What I'm saying is that it's simply unnatural for offer performing that well which is pretty much identical unless other offers are shaving
     
  8. Peter Ngo

    Peter Ngo Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    I am having the same problem with .de offers, hardly getting any conversion for this month. CR is less than 1%, fucking terrible to be frank.
     
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    Djuan Registered Member

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    Why are people still using CPA companies, if u find a good offer, contact the company and ask to be an affiliate, CPA companies is just a ripoff.
     
  10. graham25s

    graham25s Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    CPAGrip is pretty good at CPA to be fair.
     
  11. JohnWCPAGrip

    JohnWCPAGrip Newbie

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    Hey NoGameNoLife,

    Sorry to see you were having some trouble with our offers in Singapore.

    We're always working pretty hard to make sure we've got high converting campaigns in every country as best as we are able. Unfortunately, SG can be a tough market to find campaigns in that have an easy to access conversion pixel. Regarding the disparity in conversion between one offer and the others that you were talking about in your original post; I don't think you were given one offer that shaves and then other offers that don't shave. Rather, I think it's important to understand that different landing pages have different conversion points and data validation standards when it comes to qualifying what credits to a lead and what does not. Remember, each one of those pages have entirely separate companies behind them. Because of this, the actionable points for each campaign are different. We always rank what campaign is doing best for the network (and you) and place a campaign that is the most likely to do the best on our monetization tools.

    That said, your conversion should probably be higher than that. Still, Singapore is a very small market with limited budgets. Conversions are generally difficult in this country....Occasionally I've seen inventory come through that has extremely strong traction but right now it's fairly limited. I think the best marketers generally see results by targeting countries with stronger offers. SG campaigns are constantly changing, so there's not a lot of stability in the sort of performance you can expect over time.

    If you reach out to me via our support services I am happy to chat with you regarding performance. I think your experience would likely be similar at other companies because we generally offer what the industry reflects, but that said I really want you to be happy no matter what....even if that means not using CPAGrip. Hop around and feel free to see what works for you. Ultimately, we're here to help people make money, plain and simple. We work really hard at getting you guys the best inventory - and if we're not, maybe someone else can. Either way, whether you choose to reach out to me and we can check to see if there's something we can do, or you try out other companies..I wish you success in CPA. It would be my pleasure to work with you on this.

    Let me know how I can help :)

    Hopefully we'll talk soon,

    -J
     
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  12. Jagwilson

    Jagwilson Regular Member

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    might not just be cpagrips fault or the network. though it might very well be their fault its hard to say. but either way this might sound dumb but a lot of people find that around holidays that the holiday promotion offers do really well and others tank a bit. i havent had this experience but a few people i know have. You getting less than 1% CR is bad for sure but maybe try holiday offers and see if you get a boost. gonna take my own advice and do it for my usa traffic this week

    **edit realized its for .de offers so maybe no thanksgiving i guess but they do Christmas too so it still applies for now but maybe not when you posted...
     
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