This is Black Hat For Sure ??? (Help Needed From Experts)

Hi all,
At first I would like to tell you, what I know and have discovered, remaining you experienceds may contribute.


Now,
This is a guy or a team, don't know. What they are doing is

1.create a free page on some community like (branded dot me) (w3 dot org) (imgur) and many other free community websites.
2. posting one line of 20 words multiple times, multiple means (200 time) now content is 4000 words , all spammy content
3. after creating that free page, they put that url into (x) website X is one single website
4. that X website consist of 2 or 3 pages and getting indexed by google every 30 seconds bcz of lot many links are being posted on it or vice versa
5. once that free community has gone in there and that X website is cached, that free community page is on google position no 1,3,5 like this.
6. they create some free quick backlinks (not required)

Now this free page stays there for 30 mins to 40 mins. Meantime they create 100's of other pages and bring them in top positions. They spam the big G with approx top 20 - 30 position, which are top 3 pages.

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What I need is , I know that X website, I know the free websites, I have the content (20 words x pasted 200 times).
I put into that X website , it also gets cached but my page doesn't get cached nor it comes in rank....... ?

And this thing is making me go mad..... Obviously its hampering the business, more over I am frustated because I know all the things required, still I am not able to do so.

Suggestions are welcome, Help is most.
(Side along , I am working hard on white hat SEO but I know I can't stop them from pushing me down)


Regards,






*It will be more help, if you can leave / pm your skype id, so that I can add you guys and can discuss it in detail. Really thanks for your helping hand

So, you know that this works, how? I mean, you're sure this particular method is working for someone else but not for you and you're sure you haven't missed a step?

Yes, 200% sure
Because they are in my known, I mean in circle not friends or relatives and they want me to pay them for this (sh** service)

One more thing, they don't do anything special or that much super class, because these are kids, like the teens out of collage (youngstres / new comers ) who went to seo company and get to know this trick and started competition with this spam work

suneyara said:

Yes, 200% sure
Because they are in my known, I mean in circle not friends or relatives and they want me to pay them for this (sh** service)

One more thing, they don't do anything special or that much super class, because these are kids, like the teens out of collage (youngstres / new comers ) who went to seo company and get to know this trick and started competition with this spam work

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So, obviously there is something you're missing with the quick indexing. Are you working in their niche?

May be , that is why I am here.
but quick indexing is some thing that simple, copy your url put it in the X sites, wait for the X website cache for next 30 secs, that's it they are there in G and i am no where.

Yes, I was in same niche, they came and I had to stop that niche, dropped !
Now I took another niche, they are here again, Now I want to fight back.

(They are working on 2 money earning niches, which they were not aware of , and I am remaining with one , that too in trouble)

So they have an automatic indexer of sorts. Have you tried other indexing services to speed this process up? Like Linkliscious, rapid indexer, and others?

That Website X that we are talking about is that owned by them??

Also If you are not able to replicate the same steps that means you are skipping some steps. How much are they charging, if its feasible give it a try to get more insights.

Cheers

If you want, I can take a look and see if I can find out how they are doing it. PM and I'm happy to help!

OutOfTown said:

So they have an automatic indexer of sorts. Have you tried other indexing services to speed this process up? Like Linkliscious, rapid indexer, and others?

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Yes, I tried other websites, not these but yes other websites , same kind of ! But _ve
(I will try this now)

XxUnivaxX said:

That Website X that we are talking about is that owned by them??

Also If you are not able to replicate the same steps that means you are skipping some steps. How much are they charging, if its feasible give it a try to get more insights.

Cheers

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1. No, that is not owned by them
2. No i am not skipping any steps in creation of the pages & I believe nothing very special is there in submitting a url to a bookmarking or directory or pinging or article or any other website
3. They want to charge per lead, either convertible or not

domainmadness said:

If you want, I can take a look and see if I can find out how they are doing it. PM and I'm happy to help!

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PM sent,
thanks

By "money earning niches" you mean "make money online" products?

izkech said:

By "money earning niches" you mean "make money online" products?

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A kind of .... products / affiliates / etc etc

I see a lot of this pages in the upcoming movies and sport events niche.., i think you are missing the "indexing" part ???

You need to provide us with more information...do you have a link to one of these free pages?

izkech said:

I see a lot of this pages in the upcoming movies and sport events niche.., i think you are missing the "indexing" part ???

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Indexing is the main part, they get indexed because of that X website and I am not able to do so

suneyara said:

Indexing is the main part, they get indexed because of that X website and I am not able to do so

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And you said they already know you're trying to replicate what they're doing? Or could you take another strategy and play dumb with them until they tell you what "X website" is.

Is this pay per call/tech support numbers?

OutOfTown said:

And you said they already know you're trying to replicate what they're doing? Or could you take another strategy and play dumb with them until they tell you what "X website" is.

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I know the X website as well, doing same but no results.

(there is a chance they are changing the IP ? using some hide my ip kind of software)

Asif WILSON Khan said:

Is this pay per call/tech support numbers?

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That niche is also very popular, mine is movies
BUT yes, ultimately I need the solution