This "bull run" is going to be bad

INCC said:

That is just my personal opinion.

Bitcoin sits at $70,000 and the alts are not following at all.

BTC ETF got approved, now Ethereum ETF passed the first hearings and the first flows should happen within the next weeks.

But nothing sensational really happened with the BTC ETF approvals (price-wise), and it almost didn't make a taint with Ethereum.

The price has been consolidating for a while, everyone is expecting huge money to come in from all sorts of institutions but Blackrock, Sailor, and everyone already have their hands in the pie... Where should this money exactly come from that kicks off all the alts?

Even if Bitcoin hits around $100,000 that's just a bare 50% rise from where we already are.

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What are you even talking about ? BTC is almost at ATH and without any fuss at all even.

And a bare 50% ? 50% in market value is a LOT ...

The days where you can get 1000x returns and make 10k out of 10$ is over.. big institutions play different rules - expect more of boosted normal market movements and forget about the old pump and dump schemes... new players new game..

INCC said:

That is just my personal opinion.

Bitcoin sits at $70,000 and the alts are not following at all.

BTC ETF got approved, now Ethereum ETF passed the first hearings and the first flows should happen within the next weeks.

But nothing sensational really happened with the BTC ETF approvals (price-wise), and it almost didn't make a taint with Ethereum.

The price has been consolidating for a while, everyone is expecting huge money to come in from all sorts of institutions but Blackrock, Sailor, and everyone already have their hands in the pie... Where should this money exactly come from that kicks off all the alts?

Even if Bitcoin hits around $100,000 that's just a bare 50% rise from where we already are.

So even if there will be some push for the alts.. it's not going to be anywhere near what we have seen in the past.

To think that the money magically appears and all alts will kick off is naive in my opinion, maybe we are already halfway through this bull run... it's just not going to be as huge as the previous ones.. those days are gone... and the next one will be even worse than that because with each cycle the market needs more and more money to push all these coins further and outperform the previous times so the days of getting 100 x are long gone and getting 10 x becomes rare if you are not in the right spot at the right time.

The main problem lies within the dev teams of each altcoin project as they are the ones who are waiting for this "magical bull run" as well... so they postpone the marketing due to "favorable marketing conditions" but I think this is naive.

I think a lot of people will be very disappointed this time and we are going to see a lot of bag holders.

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I think you're right. Initially, I was hoping SOL would hit $500 but what we're experiencing is not nice at all.

Same story with a few other coins. Perhaps we've gotten to the saturation point where crypto is just that 'boring' thing.

By the way, a lot of folks have made really nice money from meme coins the past few weeks and months. Sadly, I just haven't been lucky with any of those.

Solona(was hovering over 20 usd after the 250+ usd bull run 2 years ago) and XMR(after it got delisted it crashed). Which I thought was a write off is doing good for me now this season.

I am now waiting on LTC to go up.

But yes there is not much movement on Altcoins. Luckily for me i only hold BTC, ETH and few other seasoned tokens.

BTC is going to 500k

I totally disagreeing with you Regarding this Bull Run.
Bull Run is yet to start and I believe that 100,000$ Bitcoin Is just the Tip of the iceberg.
Now regarding the other Alt coins, The Alt coin season usually starts 6-12 Months after the ATH of BTC.
So we haven't hit 100,000$ on BTC I believe you will see Alt coin season on Q2 2025

virtualpurity said:

What are you even talking about ? BTC is almost at ATH and without any fuss at all even.

And a bare 50% ? 50% in market value is a LOT ...

The days where you can get 1000x returns and make 10k out of 10$ is over.. big institutions play different rules - expect more of boosted normal market movements and forget about the old pump and dump schemes... new players new game..

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I have no idea what you are saying.

You are confirming and denying what I am saying at the same time but you clearly don't understand that retail investors move alts and not institutions.

HenryObi said:

By the way, a lot of folks have made really nice money from meme coins the past few weeks and months. Sadly, I just haven't been lucky with any of those.

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Yeah I mentioned that earlier... lots of this money is locked in memes... Twitter is fuming as the BASE memes take the funds away.

indianmojojojo said:

Solona(was hovering over 20 usd after the 250+ usd bull run 2 years ago) and XMR(after it got delisted it crashed). Which I thought was a write off is doing good for me now this season.

I am now waiting on LTC to go up.

But yes there is not much movement on Altcoins. Luckily for me i only hold BTC, ETH and few other seasoned tokens.

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This is how it is.

Somone has to put money in alts too and that is only the end user.

pennyweight said:

I totally disagreeing with you Regarding this Bull Run.
Bull Run is yet to start and I believe that 100,000$ Bitcoin Is just the Tip of the iceberg.
Now regarding the other Alt coins, The Alt coin season usually starts 6-12 Months after the ATH of BTC.
So we haven't hit 100,000$ on BTC I believe you will see Alt coin season on Q2 2025

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And that's fine too if that is your opinion.

But if you cannot explain why the altcoin season should start in Q2 then you are just parroting someone else's idea or something that you randomly saw somewhere that you pretty much don't even understand.

Why should the retail investor start investing in altcoins in the middle of 2025?? What is happening then, on what basis do you make such a claim?

This is a mix of wishful thinking and hope that somewhere something should happen but you cannot explain it.

It's really not a Wishful Thinking, its basic technical analysis of the previous Cycles. why will it be any different.

USA money printing machine is at it's all-time peak and not going to stop. Huge corporations are locked in, Black Rock is in.

Nothing of this happened yesterday, but effects are now clearly visible. Top 1% won't let civilians being in control of anything.

This had to happen. Whole market can still make a hell of a ride, but it will be mainly under control, and worse for individuals.

Some old players won't be affected as much as others, just hold, no much to think about.

ALTS are now 10x gems for those who do deep research, or farm airdrops. Many scams out there, as usual.

Your OP is probably correct.

great read, same thoughts.

I dont think the older alts wont move as much as in the past

Everyones looking for the 1000x

I think base chain will do well pushed by coinbase onchaun summer and advrrts $brett $toshi ect

And AI coins will run more i think, once the intrest rate drops and Q4 always good normally

Google trends

Apps store download

Your regular friend who text you when max hype is in

Your regalar coffee shop uncle talking about x token

And many others

So many things to indicate that it is still far from max hype.

Let's look at history, Bitcoin monthly chart with halving dates. What's true is that it takes longer for halving to create effects. We'd have to wait a couple months to see if this bull run is different.

I have been a bitcoin user since long time, many many years. unfortunately it got ruined by the fees and lagging behind. I don't believe it's the future of cryptocurrency, it's holding value because of huge investments which i think will eventually cashout, unfortunately. I have more trust in Litecoin or Monero rather than btc

You raise an interesting point! Bull run might be different this time. Bitcoin ETF approval didn't launch prices and alts are lagging. New money might not magically appear for big gains.

Expect smaller gains and forget 100x returns. Alt devs waiting for a bigger pump to market might be missing the boat. Basically, this bull run could be less exciting than usual. Be cautious, crypto is still a gamble!

I disagree, but we'll still have to see how it turns out. There were doubters before the last bull run in 2020, so I'm not even feeding into anybody creating FUD with doubts about this bull run. I don't think people should change their strategies either over fear about a bull run not returning higher gain. I'm seeing the same trends in the market that we saw before the 2017 and 2020 bull runs.

I think we'll find out starting in November when election season ends because that's usually when Bitcoin starts to rise to ATH. The bull run is expected to peak around 1Q or 2Q of 2025. Then it's alt coin season after that point.

A lot of people who are in crypto right now, are not necessarily expecting to get most of their financial gains off of BTC, but off the altcoins market. That's what we're waiting on and we use BTC as a sign of how high altcoins season is going to go. Even if BTC only gets to $100k in this bull run that's still a great sign for the altcoins. Some altcoins during altcoins season in 2025 are going to be performing independent of what BTC does, as a number of them skyrockted in 2021. Try to keep a close eye on that going forward.

My warning to anybody is to not wanting to miss this bull run or altcoins season is to get your bags ready by November at the latest. You have a bit more time after that for altcoins, it can take up to 6-12 months after the bull run's peak for altcoin season to peak, so you still have a little more time to hop into any altcoins that you believe in. For Bitcoin, just have at least 0.008 which is worth $500 as of right now by November. Even better if you can get 0.1 which is at $5k. Then once BTC peaks sell most of it and prop it into other altcoins because that's where the real money is going to be made at for most of us during altcoins season 2025.

Me personally, I'm likely gonna have $2k worth of Bitcoin in my portfolio by November 5th which is Election Day. Donald Trump being president will likely help the overall financial market in the US, so in all honesty the 2029-2030 bull run will be even better because that's when it's actually expected that Bitcoin will be at $1.8 million maybe even higher. 2024-2034 is the gold rush period for Bitcoin, so this 10 year window is your best opportunity to create your wealth in crypto. Right now, I just trade Bitcoin and I hope to have another $2k to put into other altcoins to trade off of then sell.

Anything can happen in the cryptocurrency market. It feels good to have a positive prediction.