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Thinking of arbitrage

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by manpreet, Apr 28, 2017.

  1. manpreet

    manpreet Regular Member

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    I've been thinking of running abitrage campaigns for a while now and have tried fb vs adsense with little success/money back (roi zero)

    Does anyone know if its worth trying media.net vs google or bing vs google or is this a time waste
     
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    when you say google or adsense you mean adwords? Are you talking about paying for ads?
     
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    How is there an arbitrage?
     
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    drive traffic from FB to Adsense, it will be profitable
    make sure ur FB CPC is very low, that way u can reach more audience
     
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    Fb ads to adsense? are you kidding me?. No way that it can be profitable. Don't waste it
     
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    read OP's post - he already achieved no loss with this model
     
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    I've read that before i posted it. But yet i still laughed about it for 5 minutes.

    Facebook isn't cheap source of traffic the google is not a cheap one either. You gotta find something that costs less but can give you profits in return.

    OP those websites that you listed won't work for you. Try to find something deeper in the web.There are decent websites that you can find.
     
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    FB is by far the cheapest I have found but the bounce rate is too high and on mobile so visitors go back out so fast it doesn't even get registered as a visit. That being said I am looking for only real traffic where users intend to visit a webpage which search engines are most likely provide rather than what popunder/redirects type traffic does as the exit rate is way too high.

    Tbh I did make such a small profit with fb but tbh it just wasn't worth it as the next day I could lose it and go negative.

    So the question is for those who have used media.net have they seen same returns as adsense??
     
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    Even if it were possible (which might be, I've known guys to be able to get clicks for $0.05 per click through some methods) but I'm not even sure that this isn't against Google's ToS and wouldn't result in a problem there.

    -ThopHayt
     
  10. manpreet

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    Why would it be against ToS when I might be using two different platforms? At the end of the day it should be my choice how I drive traffic to my site. Whether I montise with google or spend on google can be managed
     
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    what was your CPC on FB Ads?
     
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    just saw you were pretty skeptical on the other thread...:D
    - your success depends a lot on your site structure and content
    - adsense is not the only network to work with, so to raise your chances to be successfull in TA - put more networks, so you monetize same user thorugh number of networks
     
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    I landed on that thread to look for more knowledge, it started out promising but then I saw (like I mentioned in the thread) too many posts that looked like a sales thread to be honest, but I have no doubts that it may work well for others just looking to find more knowledge and tactics which is key.

    When you say adsense isn't the only one to montise with can you suggest higher paying networks? I've read adbuff is good but this is for premium sites only so its pointless me trying.

    Ideally what I am looking for is a platform that offers a combo off ppc and affiliate (I've read about it a few weeks ago but cannot find the site, maybe I mis-read?). - platform gives you ppc and tops it off if it converts to a sale
     
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    What kind of magic are you pulling off?
     
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    There's no higher paying or lower paying networks, of course, everyone has different rates, but their performance depends on your site.
    For example, you can add content.ad (important not to have bots, low or shitty quality traffic), this way you'll be able at least to monetize same user with AdSense + c.ad.

    I can help you get in with AdBuff if your site is somewhat decent, wasn't declined before.

    For affiliate - you don't need to make a 'proper site'. Look at this example:
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    http://healthnewstips.today/fungus/howshecuredhernailfungus_rv.html
    Probably I should do a 'how-to' or 'method' thread on how to do it :)
     
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    :D:D:D
     
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    Last time I spoke with someone he said if I can drive adwords traffic at 1 cent per click which I can, he promised to make 10 grands a day. Is that really possible?
     
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    I disagree with FB not being cheap. You have to know what you're doing. It took me time to fne tune my process and this is all US traffic by the way.

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    I am making money with arbitrage but my problem is that I need to make more since I pay my writers on a revenue share basis so often times I'm breaking even. I have an ad network that pays me $8/1,000 views of their ad and another network that pays on average $2 per/1000 views. I pay my writers $3-$4 per 1,000 views so once I factor in ad costs and time, it's not like I'm really breaking bank.

    The link clicks and cpc of .01 is what I'm talking about. It actually comes out to less than .01 cent per click if you do the math on what I paid in far right column. I paid $44 for 7,600 clicks off FB to my site. I would have glady kept this running but majority of the clicks were getting one of my writers paid more than I was due to my revenue share model that I previously mentioned. So I pause and start this particular campaign often.

    So let's just say that I made $60-$70 from ads on my site with this campaign based on my ad networks that I previously explained I have. I paid FB $44. I'd gladly take the $16-$26 profit (and keep this campaign running and scale up) but then I have to pay my writer as well. See that's my problem. I'm trying to eliminate my writers ONLY when it comes to when I pay for ads to get traffic to their articles. I need to get my RPMs up to $20 and then I will really be winning with this method. I'm still working on my brand and traffic for that to happen and then advertisers will come.

    I use to have Adsense but got banned due to one of my writers trying to fleece me by sending fake traffic to my site, that I didn't notice, and they tried to say I owed them a couple thousands of dollars but there was literally no ad revenue coming in that came close to that on their articles for me to pay them the amount they was asking. And then I realized what was going on when Adsense sent me an email saying how my site had invalid traffic and clicks. So I fired this writer with proof of course showing thetraffictrafic that was coming in and how it hurt my site. I'm still fighting with Adsense to this day, trying to get reinstated because Adsense was paying me good around $5 per 1,000 views at times but averaged out to close to $3. If I had Adsense right now, I probably wouldn't care as much about promoting my writers posts through FB because tha would be the lift in income that I would need to make it worth it for me.

    I'm working on writing more articles myself so that I pay myself. Because with FB advertising it's hit or miss. It depends on your content. I literally promote every article that gets posted to my fanpage but only a select few get the low numbers you see above and I stop the ads on the remaining articles that don't get the low cpc.
     
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  19. manpreet

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    I said they were lol
     
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    Thanks for the advice and offer to help which i will take in the near future.

    I just got some clicks of adwords and bingads and am not impressed. It got average 0.15 per click which is fine but adsense only got one click again which is fine as i just wanted to check what adsense actually give...i got 0.09 for one click tier one country..i usually get upwards of 0.40 so my thinking is the google clampdown either verifies where the traffic is from and slashes the price or slashes it once it realises you have used adwords acc. This is why i am looking for cross platform