Things to note when you arbitrage traffic

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malletbuzz

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I am sharing this out of experience. I was making very good money with traffic arbitrage through media buying with a ROI of between 110% -200% every single day without fail using Propellerads direct link. Basically I was clocking more than $2,000 in revenue daily with Propellerads without complains of traffic quality. In case some of you think that I am bullshitting here since you seldom hear about making so much money with Propellerads as publisher in the public, understand that I am a media buyer. My traffic volume is only limited by what ad networks can provide at a price point where I can make a profit. Also I am not here to showboat, rather, I am here to rant in a way about my own stupidity.

I was on a platinum level which means I can make on demand payment anytime with max of 2 days hold on my earnings. Was making very good money for like 6-8 months until I make the very bad mistake of trusting the Account Manager by revealing my traffic source. So behind my back, they heads toward the traffic network and negotiate private deals with them thus cutting me out completely. To make it even more humiliating, the same account manager tell me that they are working directly with these traffic sources and why should they still work with me?

Do be very careful to never reveal your traffic source no matter what the your AM says. Remember this is a business world, there is no nice guys out there.
 
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Hi bro, thank you for sharing this with us.
I was doing traffic arbitrage also with Facebook to adsense. They blocked my 8 adsense accounts. I want to change this business model.
Can you share with us how it works is it pop-up or pnot.
Can you give me some advices.
 
bouhamra said:
Hi bro, thank you for sharing this with us.
I was doing traffic arbitrage also with Facebook to adsense. They blocked my 8 adsense accounts. I want to change this business model.
Can you share with us how it works is it pop-up or pnot.
Can you give me some advices.
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I am not working on adsense. In my case I am monetizing with Propellerads.
 
Thanks for the tip. Sounds like an expensive one, so hopefully many people can benefit.
 
Willyfish said:
the guy was just fucked to openly trust someone and reveal his traffic source to the one wrong guy...

And you think he wants to openly say from where his traffic came from in a public forum with 2 millions people visiting every month?
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I should have added "/s" (sarcasm) at the end of the comment, my bad.
 
Erm actually I can reveal the whole method in public since it is no longer working. So what happen here is that I noticed there is a pricing difference between traffic that were purchased and sent directly to propellerads and indirect traffic to propellerads.

If you send traffic purchase directly, you can get around 80%-90% of traffic (rest are clickloss) but your CPM rate is going to be around $0.05-$0.3 range. However if you send the traffic directly to a landing page to collect push subscribers, you get around 10%-20% traffic only but the CPM rate gets bump to above $0.7 - $50.

So what i do here is to setup the script on my landing page so that it send whatever traffic that arrives there and redirect to propellerads in the event of any human action. Example, clicking the back button results in redirection, clicking block push subscription results in redirection,etc.

And on my traffic purchase front, I manually change my bid every hour if necessary as Propellerads only updates their stat every hour and not real time.

Target is between 100%-200% ROI. So when I do not see that level of ROI, I will reduce my bid so that the ROI can be met.

Traffic types that I use. Pop traffic purchased cheaply from Popcash, Propellerads, Evadav (but note they have traffic quality issue with their pop due to iframe).

There is really no big secret. Just some observation to take advantage of pricing errors. :)
 
malletbuzz said:
Erm actually I can reveal the whole method in public since it is no longer working. So what happen here is that I noticed there is a pricing difference between traffic that were purchased and sent directly to propellerads and indirect traffic to propellerads.

If you send traffic purchase directly, you can get around 80%-90% of traffic (rest are clickloss) but your CPM rate is going to be around $0.05-$0.3 range. However if you send the traffic directly to a landing page to collect push subscribers, you get around 10%-20% traffic only but the CPM rate gets bump to above $0.7 - $50.

So what i do here is to setup the script on my landing page so that it send whatever traffic that arrives there and redirect to propellerads in the event of any human action. Example, clicking the back button results in redirection, clicking block push subscription results in redirection,etc.

And on my traffic purchase front, I manually change my bid every hour if necessary as Propellerads only updates their stat every hour and not real time.

Target is between 100%-200% ROI. So when I do not see that level of ROI, I will reduce my bid so that the ROI can be met.

Traffic types that I use. Pop traffic purchased cheaply from Popcash, Propellerads, Evadav (but note they have traffic quality issue with their pop due to iframe).

There is really no big secret. Just some observation to take advantage of pricing errors. :)
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That was smart, so you used to send worldwide traffic or it was targeted in any manner?

You can replicate the same method on any similar network like propeller or you can't?
 
nerdblogger said:
That was smart, so you used to send worldwide traffic or it was targeted in any manner?

You can replicate the same method on any similar network like propeller or you can't?
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Possible to duplicate on places such as Adsterra but a lot of customization will need to be in place as different traffic network behaves differently. Problem with adsterra is that payment takes 2-3 weeks. So capital outlay and ROI will be very much lesser. Considering that on Propellerads I am getting paid every 3 working days. This is why i am not really expanding into other Network. Traffic is WW but certain GEOs will never be profitable unless traffic is free. Example, IN, EG, just to name a few. But there are also some that pays super well, example, Canada, South Africa, etc.
 
malletbuzz said:
Possible to duplicate on places such as Adsterra but a lot of customization will need to be in place as different traffic network behaves differently. Problem with adsterra is that payment takes 2-3 weeks. So capital outlay and ROI will be very much lesser. Considering that on Propellerads I am getting paid every 3 working days. This is why i am not really expanding into other Network. Traffic is WW but certain GEOs will never be profitable unless traffic is free. Example, IN, EG, just to name a few. But there are also some that pays super well, example, Canada, South Africa, etc.
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Good catch on the method man.

I just have 2 questions and I hope you can answer them. When buying traffic from any of your sources, did you do any optimization to remove the bad sources, and if so how did you find the "bad" sources to block them since you just redirected after any interaction and not clicking on a specific button which you could use a tracker for.

What service did you use for your push subscriptions?

Thanks for the heads up btw!
 
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malletbuzz said:
If you send traffic purchase directly, you can get around 80%-90% of traffic (rest are clickloss) but your CPM rate is going to be around $0.05-$0.3 range. However if you send the traffic directly to a landing page to collect push subscribers, you get around 10%-20% traffic only but the CPM rate gets bump to above $0.7 - $50.
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Do you mean by this if you filter the traffic using a landing page you can get high CPM rate ?
you were promoting propellerads direct link?
 
bouhamra said:
Do you mean by this if you filter the traffic using a landing page you can get high CPM rate ?
you were promoting propellerads direct link?
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Based on what he said, in theory, yes, but there is more to it, rather than just filtering traffic and start earning based on my experience and testings
 
Thanks
malletbuzz said:
I am sharing this out of experience. I was making very good money with traffic arbitrage through media buying with a ROI of between 110% -200% every single day without fail using Propellerads direct link. Basically I was clocking more than $2,000 in revenue daily with Propellerads without complains of traffic quality. In case some of you think that I am bullshitting here since you seldom hear about making so much money with Propellerads as publisher in the public, understand that I am a media buyer. My traffic volume is only limited by what ad networks can provide at a price point where I can make a profit. Also I am not here to showboat, rather, I am here to rant in a way about my own stupidity.

I was on a platinum level which means I can make on demand payment anytime with max of 2 days hold on my earnings. Was making very good money for like 6-8 months until I make the very bad mistake of trusting the Account Manager by revealing my traffic source. So behind my back, they heads toward the traffic network and negotiate private deals with them thus cutting me out completely. To make it even more humiliating, the same account manager tell me that they are working directly with these traffic sources and why should they still work with me?

Do be very careful to never reveal your traffic source no matter what the your AM says. Remember this is a business world, there is no nice guys out there.
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