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The true explanation about the new view counting system

Discussion in 'YouTube' started by pedropsr16, May 2, 2009.

  1. pedropsr16

    pedropsr16 Newbie

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    THE TRUE EXPLANATION ABOUT THE NEW SYSTEM

    In response to all the complains about the frozen counters, one of YouTube tech supports, Timmy, posted the following statement on behalf of YouTube:


    March 3, 2009
    Hi all,

    We?ve made a change in our public-facing view counts across the site that will enable us to consistently reflect what is considered a ?view,? based upon video consumption, video streaming and spam filtering. This only affects view counts from February 25 moving forward.
    Implementing this change also caused view count updates to slow down a bit in general; many people have noticed this and we?re aware of the issue.
    Thanks,
    - Timmy

    So, youtube addmits having a new view counting system.
    The new system basically freezes the view counter of every video (around 300) that is getting views to fast, then, youtube

    analyzes the video to find out if the views are real or if they were inflated. If they were infladed, the counter gets stuked until real views overcome the inflated ones; if the views were real, the counter is updated.
    That's why, for example, the new smosh video released yesterday had the counter stuked at 320, and it was now (after youtube analysis) updated to the real number of views (200,000), the same happened to the new fred's video.

    So, every video's views will be stuked around 300, either you bot it or not, at least until youtube checks if the video is actually popular or not, probably based on the comments, ratings... etc...

    You cannot freeze the view counting of a popular video by increasing it's views, becouse it will alwaws have many ratings, comments and much more.

    Now, the only way to increase views is to do it very slowly, maybe a new software that runs in the system tray everytime the computer starts and increases 1 or 2 views a minute, so the counter doesen't get stuked, because if it does, it will probably be like that a long time...
     
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    Yeah, I've seen it.
    Your views will get stuked, but, if you use a single ip for each one of them (insted of using a loop of proxies) it won't seem to youtube that the views were inflated and the counter will be updated.

    I just could not try your method because when I opened hide my ip, I realized that it was just catching proxies, instead of changing my ip. I belive that won't solve the problem.
     
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    I have been testing it for a while now and it works The only drawback is you have to purchase the pro version but it does work
     
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    I know, and one of my videos is frozen, I sent you a private message with the URL, I saw an update on another post saying that you are already unfreezing it, thanks :D

    I think your method works because: when some is increasing views and sees his counter freezed, it's a normal reaction to stop inflating, and youtube sees that the views stoped comming after the counter have been blocked and understands that they were inflated, but if you keep sending views (but not too fast) youtube sees that they are real and constant so the counter is updated, maybe that's the new system...

    I belive that when you use hide my ip, you are using the same proxys you would use with, for example, tube increaser, so your system may also work by setting tube increaser to 2 minutes of delay.
     
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    When I opened the installer of the trial it said that it could not transfear the data from the server, can someone give me the trial already unpacked?
     
  7. shudogg

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    The true explanation? Its incomplete, doesn't work properly, and gets your accounts deleted. I can do all that for free!

    The truth is, this thing should have been ready before he opened up the main site for sales. I understand selling the prelaunch version in forums and such, but to have it open on the main site for sale is just stupid. You do not officially sell something unless it is ready. This program is clearly not ready.

    Just look at the demo, it looks a like a 9 year old made a program in VB but yet none of the functions work. Except views. It does send views. BUT it takes like 24hrs straight to get 3k views. Then after that, your video or account will be deleted within a day or 2.

    I say, stop selling any more copies and go back to the drawing board. When it is ready, try again.
     
  8. pedropsr16

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    If you're talking about tube 3g you're in the wrong post.
    I'm just explaining how the view counting system works, I have nothing to do with any software...
     
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    Your explanation is 3 months late, and we've already discussed this in some detail. Before you post, why don't you take a little time and just read through what's already been posted?
     
  10. pedropsr16

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    I wrote this about 1 month ago, if you know more, please take some time and share with me the truth explanation about the new view counting system :D Thank you.