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Call bullshit all you want. If you pay someone in a foreign country to break the law for you, it's still a crime.

I'm almost positive those guys are in club fed. We were also heavily dependent on phishing, carding, spreading password stealers, scamming, cracking, etc.

So this is what I get for offering some noobs who are about to commit crimes with a clear paper trail back to them some advice to help them out. Think whatever you want. I turned this bullshit into a legitimate career years ago, makes no difference to me.
 
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dannyhw said:
Call bullshit all you want. If you pay someone in a foreign country to break the law for you, it's still a crime.
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You're not paying him to break the law, if the thing you're paying him to do isn't a crime in his country.

dannyhw said:
I'm almost positive those guys are in club fed. We were also heavily dependent on phishing, carding, spreading password stealers, scamming, cracking, etc.
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You didn't say all that, the first time you only said spamming. I officially retract my call-out, and apologize.

dannyhw said:
So this is what I get for offering some noobs who are about to commit crimes with a clear paper trail back to them some advice to help them out. Think whatever you want. I turned this bullshit into a legitimate career years ago, makes no difference to me.
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I'm neither a noob, nor does the country I currently reside in recognize "spamming" as a crime. But I realize a lot of people are in countries that do, and you're trying to help them. I may have gotten carried away, again, I retract my statement, and offer you my apology.
 
No worries. It's true that the guy in the foreign country isn't breaking any laws, but if you're in the USA paying him to do it it's still conspiracy. Now to find you, they'd have to subpoena the network to get a lead and build a good investigation. It's not at all likely, but it's always possible. You just don't want to be the guy they decide who is going to be the example.

The thing I would be worried about when scaling this up to a heavy hitting level is that someecards would get hit with requests so hard it would be like a DDOS. They would probably also get blacklisted and their legitimate users cards would get filtered putting a dent in their business. That might get them pissed enough to pursue legal action but again it's not all that likely they'd bother.
 
I'm going to be using off**to to cloak my links but I'm wondering if affiliate managers would find it suspicious that they are receiving untraceable new sign ups under my affiliate ID and if they would request an explanation for it? Should I make a new domain and double meta refresh so that it looks like their sign ups are coming from a legitimate site? I didn't plan on making a new domain, I was just going to send my cloaked link through email, would that be unsafe?
 
I haven't found an ecard site that has all of these features:

1) allows HTML in the message
2) when e-card is sent, it goes to the inbox instead of the spam folder

Has anyone found an ecard site that has this? I hope I don't have to develop an ecard site... :p
 
tbootz said:
I'm going to be using off**to to cloak my links but I'm wondering if affiliate managers would find it suspicious that they are receiving untraceable new sign ups under my affiliate ID and if they would request an explanation for it? Should I make a new domain and double meta refresh so that it looks like their sign ups are coming from a legitimate site? I didn't plan on making a new domain, I was just going to send my cloaked link through email, would that be unsafe?
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If you're using a DMR, then your referrers would be blank. Your sign ups will look like they're coming from outer space, not a "legit site". Outer space is always better than a legit site.
 
Ok, made my first 40 overnight using a twist of this method for just one sign up on mtree.

However my conversions are very low. I have been emailing CL'ers and sending them to my cloaked clink. After only a few emails hotmail and yahoo start bitching that they noticed suspicious activity on my account and force me to make a new one, preventing me from engaging in any back and forth that would help me nail the guys and build my credibility.

I know conversions depend on how credible and "real" you appear to your victims but it's pretty tough maintaining the act with email clients always blocking my emails. Does anyone else have this problem? What email clients do you use?
 
I'm trying to find an affiliate that does not forbid email marketing, I was reading Fling's TOS and it says they will close your account down if they find out you are promoting them through email, But do they really do that?
 
xpro said:
I'm trying to find an affiliate that does not forbid email marketing, I was reading Fling's TOS and it says they will close your account down if they find out you are promoting them through email, But do they really do that?
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Welcome to black hat world.
 
tbootz said:
I have been emailing CL'ers and sending them to my cloaked clink.
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Why? Get them to email you, scrape the addresses from your inbox, and start sending ecards. I havent had to email a single person this whole method :)
 
I think most of people so the same thing now in Craigslist taht in a few weeks it gets saturated..
 
FYI anyone pushing mtree or webcams.com is gonna get converted to revshare quickly. Took me a day and a half at both places.
 
So has anyone found a good greeting card company that allows multiple email copy/paste into the email field, instead of doing it one by one? And also, anything that allows html coding in the message? I really just wanna copy my entire list of address from a word/excel doc and then paste it into the email field on the card. So far using 123 greetings, but it's a one recipient at a time service..meaning I have to manually copy and paste each individual email.
 
hahahh this is really a good idea im going to try this cant you just mass email these guys ???
 
tbootz said:
So what happens when you get converted?
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after i was converted..with 4 revshare customers i made $.60.

So..thats what happens. You def have to find something to promo that is going to provide value..otherwise it's shit basically. Can maybe make $1400 if you push quick in between mtree & webcams. I was hitting $600/day..and it just ended up being shit for them.
 
spikeanut said:
So has anyone found a good greeting card company that allows multiple email copy/paste into the email field, instead of doing it one by one? And also, anything that allows html coding in the message? I really just wanna copy my entire list of address from a word/excel doc and then paste it into the email field on the card. So far using 123 greetings, but it's a one recipient at a time service..meaning I have to manually copy and paste each individual email.
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123 Greetings allows you to send your cards up to 100 recipients at a time. When you send the cards there's a Add Receiver button that gives adds another recipient box. It's not as fast as being able to copy and paste all the emails at once but it's faster than sending individual cards.
 
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