The Reason Why I'm Sticking with the Copy Claim Method

The last three months I've been figuring out ways to make a full-time living from YouTube again after taking time away from it for 3 years after the rule changes in the YouTube Partner Program (YPP) and there was some hope two years ago when my friend told me about the Tony Montana Method also known as the Copy Claim Method where all you do is simply put music that you enter through YouTube's Content ID system through a digital label and make money from it. One of the reasons why I wasn't so high on it because I didn't realize for the longest until this summer that you actually needed the channel to have the same monetization standards that a monetized channel would have with 1k subs and 4,000 hours of watchtime. Had I known about this two years ago, I would've been way more aggressive with this method.

The change for me happened two weeks ago when I made $2.2k from my August 2021 earnings. The previous month I made $200+ which was a new high at the time. It seemed like the method was a waste of time or should just be used as extra income. I was making $30 a month from the method for a while but since I used it in the summer more aggressively, I can now see the complete potential in this method. My friend and another BlackHatWorld member have made thousands off the method but I needed to make a lot more which was why I didn't really focus on it.

I had around 2.7 million views in August and that gave me $2.2k so now I know how much I'd probably need to make that type of a number so lately I've been really focused on one of my bigger channels.

My only problem is that since one of my labels dropped me back in January for cheating with this method, I won't know when my other two labels will drop me. For now, I'll keep using it until they catch me but I'm still focused on YPP but those channels will grow at my own pace and slowly.

I love copy claim because I can basically upload copyright videos the old school way with no transformation or spending any extra money on a voice over artist.

It's definitely worth it for anybody who succeeded on YouTube back in the day with copyright content.

So you're uploading copyrighted music and claiming it as being your own through a label?

SOCOM said:

So you're uploading copyrighted music and claiming it as being your own through a label?

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No, the music you use is music that's not claimed through the system yet but when I started I used some older unclaimed music then I started getting my own made.

So you claim the music in your video in order to avoid copyright on the video content?
I'm confused.

sothisisnightlife said:

So you claim the music in your video in order to avoid copyright on the video content?
I'm confused.

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It's actually really simple the process is automatically done for you, once you submit your music to the music distributor then you wait a month or two for YouTube to activate your music into their Content ID system.

Whatever video with your music attached to it whether or not you uploaded it to YouTube or not it will be claimed by your distributor and it will have ads on it meaning you collect the royalties or revenue from it. You'll get paid like you do with AdSense but the money is usually much lower so you need a lot of views.

Remember in order to get paid though the channel that the music is on must have 1,000 subscribers and 4,000 watch hours first or that video will not display ads.

very interesting
how do you find or know the music you upload dont have rights claimed?

DStiles said:

must have 1,000 subscribers and 4,000 watch hours first or that video will not display ads.

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No need to be accepted in YPP / monetized? As long as you have 1k subs and 4k watch hours?

Any idea what was the reason your label claim that you're cheating?

I was making steady 5k/month for 1 year and half using Amuse,Audiam. That time this method is still not famous and still ok to use. Until this year on May they frozen my account thankfully Amuse still pay the remaining revenues until last September and Audiam stole everything fuck them. Distrokid caught my account after using only 3 months because 1 of my video blow up with 5 mil. Now I focus on my monetize channel slow but steady. If I low on money I probably search any good music distributor. I found some good but you need to have a lot of music for them to accept.

DStiles said:

It's actually really simple the process is automatically done for you, once you submit your music to the music distributor then you wait a month or two for YouTube to activate your music into their Content ID system.

Whatever video with your music attached to it whether or not you uploaded it to YouTube or not it will be claimed by your distributor and it will have ads on it meaning you collect the royalties or revenue from it. You'll get paid like you do with AdSense but the money is usually much lower so you need a lot of views.

Remember in order to get paid though the channel that the music is on must have 1,000 subscribers and 4,000 watch hours first or that video will not display ads.

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Lets say for example, I have a football video and I want to avoid getting copyright claims.
If I add the music in the content ID system and it claims the audio, would that prevent me getting copyright claim on the football video content?

sothisisnightlife said:

Lets say for example, I have a football video and I want to avoid getting copyright claims.
If I add the music in the content ID system and it claims the audio, would that prevent me getting copyright claim on the football video content?

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It won't, you will share de revenue with the other claimer.

DStiles said:

The last three months I've been figuring out ways to make a full-time living from YouTube again after taking time away from it for 3 years after the rule changes in the YouTube Partner Program (YPP) and there was some hope two years ago when my friend told me about the Tony Montana Method also known as the Copy Claim Method where all you do is simply put music that you enter through YouTube's Content ID system through a digital label and make money from it. One of the reasons why I wasn't so high on it because I didn't realize for the longest until this summer that you actually needed the channel to have the same monetization standards that a monetized channel would have with 1k subs and 4,000 hours of watchtime. Had I known about this two years ago, I would've been way more aggressive with this method.

The change for me happened two weeks ago when I made $2.2k from my August 2021 earnings. The previous month I made $200+ which was a new high at the time. It seemed like the method was a waste of time or should just be used as extra income. I was making $30 a month from the method for a while but since I used it in the summer more aggressively, I can now see the complete potential in this method. My friend and another BlackHatWorld member have made thousands off the method but I needed to make a lot more which was why I didn't really focus on it.

I had around 2.7 million views in August and that gave me $2.2k so now I know how much I'd probably need to make that type of a number so lately I've been really focused on one of my bigger channels.

My only problem is that since one of my labels dropped me back in January for cheating with this method, I won't know when my other two labels will drop me. For now, I'll keep using it until they catch me but I'm still focused on YPP but those channels will grow at my own pace and slowly.

I love copy claim because I can basically upload copyright videos the old school way with no transformation or spending any extra money on a voice over artist.

It's definitely worth it for anybody who succeeded on YouTube back in the day with copyright content.

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Happy that it worked for u but don't they say like you have to get a minimum of 10K views on the video to get paid, or u have made money even with low amount of views.

DStiles said:

The last three months I've been figuring out ways to make a full-time living from YouTube again after taking time away from it for 3 years after the rule changes in the YouTube Partner Program (YPP) and there was some hope two years ago when my friend told me about the Tony Montana Method also known as the Copy Claim Method where all you do is simply put music that you enter through YouTube's Content ID system through a digital label and make money from it. One of the reasons why I wasn't so high on it because I didn't realize for the longest until this summer that you actually needed the channel to have the same monetization standards that a monetized channel would have with 1k subs and 4,000 hours of watchtime. Had I known about this two years ago, I would've been way more aggressive with this method.

The change for me happened two weeks ago when I made $2.2k from my August 2021 earnings. The previous month I made $200+ which was a new high at the time. It seemed like the method was a waste of time or should just be used as extra income. I was making $30 a month from the method for a while but since I used it in the summer more aggressively, I can now see the complete potential in this method. My friend and another BlackHatWorld member have made thousands off the method but I needed to make a lot more which was why I didn't really focus on it.

I had around 2.7 million views in August and that gave me $2.2k so now I know how much I'd probably need to make that type of a number so lately I've been really focused on one of my bigger channels.

My only problem is that since one of my labels dropped me back in January for cheating with this method, I won't know when my other two labels will drop me. For now, I'll keep using it until they catch me but I'm still focused on YPP but those channels will grow at my own pace and slowly.

I love copy claim because I can basically upload copyright videos the old school way with no transformation or spending any extra money on a voice over artist.

It's definitely worth it for anybody who succeeded on YouTube back in the day with copyright content.

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Works great for me (different niche, almost same method).

pocketttt said:

very interesting
how do you find or know the music you upload dont have rights claimed?

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That's a very good question especially for anybody just starting out with this method. I started out using old music that was unclaimed. It's best to upload that music to YouTube on a dummy channel and see if it's already in the system. If it's not then go on ahead and claim it as your own. Sometimes even if it's not in the YouTube Content ID system, the song might still have been submitted to the distributor you're using and the people who submitted are not collecting YouTube royalties from it. This happened to me one time in TuneCore so try to get songs that are very undiscovered as I find songs like that on SoundCloud for the most part with low views.

Honestly in the long run so you don't get in trouble, just pay for new music on Fiverr to be made to keep you 100% out of trouble but make sure the person who creates your music is doing it 100% from scratch and not stealing other people's music.

Shaffmaster said:

No need to be accepted in YPP / monetized? As long as you have 1k subs and 4k watch hours?

Any idea what was the reason your label claim that you're cheating?

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That's correct you do not have to be accepted in YPP to monetize your music this way. You just need to make sure the channel has more than 1k subs and 4k watch hours to get ads from your music onto your videos. This was my first biggest mistake 2 years ago was not knowing this because I wasted my time on channels that weren't up to those standards and those videos were not receiving ads on them.

Yeah, TuneCore told me upfront that they noticed that I was uploaded clips of a TV show and stashing the music into all of those videos. Luckily I got paid every last cent that was owed to me after they dropped me. I'm trying to figure out how to stay safer in the future.

Grigorirasputinn said:

I was making steady 5k/month for 1 year and half using Amuse,Audiam. That time this method is still not famous and still ok to use. Until this year on May they frozen my account thankfully Amuse still pay the remaining revenues until last September and Audiam stole everything fuck them. Distrokid caught my account after using only 3 months because 1 of my video blow up with 5 mil. Now I focus on my monetize channel slow but steady. If I low on money I probably search any good music distributor. I found some good but you need to have a lot of music for them to accept.

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I'm glad you commented and let us know that because I really want to stay safe with this method but I need to know what's the best way to do it without getting caught. You were doing really well and I'm glad Amuse paid you every last cent and I've heard bad things about Audiam that's why I stayed away from them. TuneCore got me bad as well and I haven't heard anything with CD Baby yet so I just started using them but I'm sure they'll drop you as well if you blow up. That was my only fear is if one video blew up would DistroKid get rid of me?

Are you still using this method today and if you are what labels are using? If you don't want to reveal here DM me privately. I've seen some of them myself they're tough to get into or have a lot of music. I was thinking about getting more music made. I wonder if using the same tracks way too much is killing us?

I'm still more concentrated on monetizing my channels with AdSense as copy claim is really good in the beginning when you're low on money.

sothisisnightlife said:

Lets say for example, I have a football video and I want to avoid getting copyright claims.
If I add the music in the content ID system and it claims the audio, would that prevent me getting copyright claim on the football video content?

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jerennar said:

It won't, you will share de revenue with the other claimer.

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You'll definitely still get the claim, you'll share the revenue with the claimer regardless so you won't be completely locked out from making money. I'd suggest getting as many views as possible in that football niche so you can get a decent amount of revenue that you split with the claimer. Also, find some niches where your content isn't claimed by another company as well.

Leader777 said:

Happy that it worked for u but don't they say like you have to get a minimum of 10K views on the video to get paid, or u have made money even with low amount of views.

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Thanks, man, from my knowledge it depends on the distributor but most of the ones I've seen do require 10k views to get paid so that's true. That's why you need to get involved in high viewing niches if you do this method. I'm not 100% positive sure on that as I hope somebody here confirms it but I do believe it's a minimum of 10k views on the video to get paid.

I'll have to look back through to see if my sub 10k viewed videos got payment.

TanakaLucian said:

Works great for me (different niche, almost same method).

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Awesome man and thanks for sharing your stats with us as you were doing extremely well. This is in DistroKid so are you using other distributors as well?

I want to talk to you in private about something with this so I'll send you a DM shortly.

DStiles said:

Thanks, man, from my knowledge it depends on the distributor but most of the ones I've seen do require 10k views to get paid so that's true. That's why you need to get involved in high viewing niches if you do this method. I'm not 100% positive sure on that as I hope somebody here confirms it but I do believe it's a minimum of 10k views on the video to get paid.

I'll have to look back through to see if my sub 10k viewed videos got payment.

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I have some ideas about this, hopefully they work.

TanakaLucian said:

Works great for me (different niche, almost same method).

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whats this method i didnt understand it yet

Thanks for sharing!
So basically, you are uploading video clips you think will catch views even if they are copyrighted, adding your music to them, then claiming a part of the video's ad revenue because it's using your music?

All my songs are in Dittos. Anyone tried this with Ditto ? I am also a producer, and planning to produce songs free to artists who cant afford it, then I use their songs to do this method .

Do we even need Distrokid, Tunecore or the other labels? Is there no other way to use content ID without not only giving them a cut but also risking your account getting frozen?

hmm thats stranger since june u get paid u dont need 1k subs and 4k watch hours just dont use content that will get u strike down ))

Evergreen method, thanks for your experience. What characteristics must audio clips have to be approved? How long must the minimum duration be?